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whatthe6789 05-17-2008 04:58 PM

oh, and included in that 17 is a pilot from Allegheny who hasnt flown for Piedmont since the takeover, not sure if hes an FO or a Capt

CactusCrew 05-17-2008 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by whatthe6789 (Post 385392)
oh, and included in that 17 is a pilot from Allegheny who hasnt flown for Piedmont since the takeover, not sure if hes an FO or a Capt

bet that's going to be a tough refresher course ...

:eek:

coop77 05-17-2008 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by naley70b (Post 385021)
???

Why PSA has upgrade mins equivalent to those of ATP mins and they havn't had any incidents.

Part 135 guys fly more technical stuff than we do and while they have a hire incident rate than that of the 121 world its not nearly as dangerous as everyone thinks.

Naley- Comparing PSA's upgrade req's to ours is pointless. Flying an RJ is nothing like flying a Dash, and though I'm sure to get some argument on this one....I dare say that the skill level required to fly a Dash safely when sheeeott hits the fan is a whole different game than an RJ. A lowering of the 3000-hr upgrade requirement should require that the safety briefing cards include saying a prayer prior to every pushback. One thing I do know: My family and freinds will not be onboard. That's for dizzamn sure.

bassslayer 05-18-2008 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by coop77 (Post 385510)
Naley- Comparing PSA's upgrade req's to ours is pointless. Flying an RJ is nothing like flying a Dash, and though I'm sure to get some argument on this one....I dare say that the skill level required to fly a Dash safely when sheeeott hits the fan is a whole different game than an RJ. A lowering of the 3000-hr upgrade requirement should require that the safety briefing cards include saying a prayer prior to every pushback. One thing I do know: My family and freinds will not be onboard. That's for dizzamn sure.


I love how people assume an RJ is so much easier to fly simply because it has more automation. Not that it is hard to fly once you used to it, but it seems turbo propr drivers automatically assume flying a turbo prop is harder. Maybe it is, I don't know. I do know the people I have flown with that have flown the Dash say it is not. True, you have less automation and your flying lower so your stuck in the weather more. I'll give you that. But your flying also flying an airplane that is a lot slower. Id be willing to bet that a Dash is more forgiving than an RJ, especially if you get behind it.

flyviper 05-18-2008 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by bassslayer (Post 385591)
I love how people assume an RJ is so much easier to fly simply because it has more automation. Not that it is hard to fly once you used to it, but it seems turbo propr drivers automatically assume flying a turbo prop is harder. Maybe it is, I don't know. I do know the people I have flown with that have flown the Dash say it is not. True, you have less automation and your flying lower so your stuck in the weather more. I'll give you that. But your flying also flying an airplane that is a lot slower. Id be willing to bet that a Dash is more forgiving than an RJ, especially if you get behind it.

Can you guys hold 180kts til' 3 mile final? =) J/K.

PropPiedmont 05-18-2008 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by bassslayer (Post 385591)
I love how people assume an RJ is so much easier to fly simply because it has more automation. Not that it is hard to fly once you used to it, but it seems turbo propr drivers automatically assume flying a turbo prop is harder. Maybe it is, I don't know. I do know the people I have flown with that have flown the Dash say it is not. True, you have less automation and your flying lower so your stuck in the weather more. I'll give you that. But your flying also flying an airplane that is a lot slower. Id be willing to bet that a Dash is more forgiving than an RJ, especially if you get behind it.

I definitely know that flying a 737 is easier than the Dash-8. Especially when an engine fails.

PropPiedmont 05-18-2008 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by flyviper (Post 385805)
Can you guys hold 180kts til' 3 mile final? =) J/K.

Better yet, can you keep an RJ clean to a 3 mile final and still land?

ExperimentalAB 05-18-2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by PropPiedmont (Post 385950)
Better yet, can you keep an RJ clean to a 3 mile final and still land?

Heck yeah...if you cheat on the glide-slope :D

And for those who think flying a Jet is easier than a Prop, well you're right. No argument there, folks. These CRJ's are one monkey away from flying themselves...

SmoothOnTop 05-18-2008 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by flyviper (Post 385805)
Can you guys hold 180kts til' 3 mile final? =) J/K.

In the -, you'd probably have to be clean, max power and 15 degrees A.N.D. to hold 180 knots anywhere :)...

Any 1900 drivers want to chime in about 248 knots inside of a three mile final?

ExperimentalAB 05-18-2008 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 386027)
In the -, you'd probably have to be clean, max power and 15 degrees A.N.D. to hold 180 knots anywhere :)...

Any 1900 drivers want to chime in about 248 knots inside of a three mile final?

What is this 248-knot business?? Enlighten the un-enlightened, please ;)


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