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Aviatormar 08-12-2009 08:24 AM

Meyers9163 I think is spot on. I think most of the "new" cities will be picked up by AWAC and it'll be a wash on the level of our current flying.

Still Grounded-It's not only sad that we make more flying a much smaller aircraft, it's also our work rules, which makes yours look silly, it's our trip and duty rigs, our higher per diem, CX and MX cancellation pay, our higher 401k match, get the idea? Yeah, we have a much better contract, which is still a concessionary contract, then your current contract. My current roomate is a RW FO and I bring home a healthy margin more then him, so it's not all about straight pay rates. But you guys get to fly a "big jet". Have fun.

meyers9163 08-12-2009 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 660384)
Average FO at RW makes 36. A whole $2 less then a 2year+fo at AWAC. Same job, same responsibility. If you honestly feel a crj is more comfortable than a e-jet you are exactly the troll you portray yourself to be with comments like the one above.

Who cares about comfort on a flight that if flown by an express should be less then 2 hours? They are paying to get from point A to point B to connect and thus its an express flight. Go fly that big ole Ejet that yes is more comfy, but I could not care less about how my paxs feeling. I rather know I am getting paid a fair rate for what i do and have proper work rules. But guess you will have that in the E190???

Hal9000 08-12-2009 08:47 AM

"but I could not care less about how my paxs feeling."

Nice. Who do you think is ultimately paying your salary?

BlueSkiesAhead 08-12-2009 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Hal9000 (Post 660432)
"but I could not care less about how my paxs feeling."

Nice. Who do you think is ultimately paying your salary?

I don't really think that is what he was trying to say. I'm sure that the point was that a pilot should be much more concerned with fair pay and work rules than how comfy the guy back in seat 12A is at the moment.

I don't think it takes a genius to realize that flying a 76-86 seat airplane should mean bringing home more money than flying a 50 seater. :rolleyes:

SpeedyVagabond 08-12-2009 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 660363)
Airways should cut ties with RAH, let them go take their 170/5's to Hawaii and have fun. Give true feed back a regional...AWAC. But Doug wont. People think they're flying on a real jet, only problem is the FO is making $23.00. Haha.

Doug's right, the people are probably very thankful they're on a comfortable erj and not squished into the back of your Boeing regional jet.

ToiletDuck 08-12-2009 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 660442)
Doug's right, the people are probably very thankful they're on a comfortable erj and not squished into the back of your Boeing regional jet.

Don't feed idiocy.

Killer51883 08-12-2009 09:12 AM

i kind of find this funny that you are all arguing over pay rates, routes, and my tin can is more comfy than your tin can. this is the second hub operation airways has cut in a little more than a month. what happens in the beginning of september? airways sells its boston operation to south west? how long do you think the dca operation will exist or the clt and philly?

Aviatormar 08-12-2009 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 660445)
i kind of find this funny that you are all arguing over pay rates, routes, and my tin can is more comfy than your tin can. this is the second hub operation airways has cut in a little more than a month. what happens in the beginning of september? airways sells its boston operation to south west? how long do you think the dca operation will exist or the clt and philly?

You really are kidding right? Lets see, they cut RJ flying, which we all know is the least efficient, highest cost flying there is. They are KEEPING a relatively large presence there in LGA I.E. the shuttle flying that makes them money hand over fist. They are going to DOMINATE in DCA which has some of the highest ticket prices, plus a strong, healthy city to support it. Also they gain some more international route authority, so what's the downside? Lets see, dumping LGA express flights, which affects their on-time performance numbers, gain an even stronger presence in DCA, and get a couple good, high profit margin routes, which they need. Yeah, don't worry, I honestly think airways will be fine.

SpeedyVagabond 08-12-2009 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 660445)
i kind of find this funny that you are all arguing over pay rates, routes, and my tin can is more comfy than your tin can. this is the second hub operation airways has cut in a little more than a month. what happens in the beginning of september? airways sells its boston operation to south west? how long do you think the dca operation will exist or the clt and philly?

I didn't know LGA was a hub for them. This could be good news for Airways and solidify their position in DCA in addition to getting more money making international flying. What was the other hub they closed?

flyguyniner11 08-12-2009 09:55 AM

What was the other hub that closed within month. PIT closed last year sometime I believe.


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