Piedmont Ad irony
 

Anyone else see the irony in the Piedmont ad often on the right?
"Upgrade in 18 to 24 months." "Flow to American in 3 to 5 years."
Annnnnd they show a 62 year old pilot in the Dash. Hahaha.
I think you're sending the wrong message there Piedmont. :D

Are you saying that older folks can't join at age 60, upgrade at 62, then flow at 64 and 11 months to be at AA for one month?


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Not that it's impossible, but I don't think that's the demo they are appealing to in the ad.

While everybody is entitle to form their own opinion, what's wrong with putting up a picture of an older gentelman? Unbelievable.

Because they aren't trying to sell viagra. They are trying to attract 20-somethings.

Really? In that case they should put up a 23 year old hot chick in that seat.

Right. That's why putting an old man in the seat isn't an effective advertisement.

Life at Piedmont.

Hahaha...genius!

This is a pointless thread. The truth is that there simply isn't many people in their 20's doing this anymore. It is time and cost prohibitive to them. Loans are not easy to come by anymore, like when I was given $100,000, no job or co-signer 10 years ago. For many, the ROI simply looks like it takes too long. When I was a CFI, it was quite a novelty to have a homegrown student...I had 2 in 6 years of teaching almost 80 students. Only 1 of the 2 was interested in the airlines. Not good...

An old pilot might teach you something useful.

At a corporate operation years ago the chairman gave his friend, retired Pan Am 747 Captain a chance to fly as Captain on a bizjet. The other pilots liked him as he would teach them things about jet flying then did not know.

Sending the wrong message that if you want to make a good career here (the ca pictured has been here 35 years btw...) you can?

You're an idiot potato.

Relax, this guy wasn't being malicious.

Advertising a career at a regional will not attract pilots. I truly believe that was not the intention of this ad. Movement and growth attract pilots, as has been proven time and time again, not a 35 year career flying from CLT to FLO.

Piedmont Ad irony
 

He was just stating the irony. Historically and/or the majority you see young in regionals and older in majors. I get it.


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Wow... Does anyone have a sense of humor anymore? Why so personal? The "point" of this thread was to lighten things up. Clearly many of you cannot do that.

If you think that's the message they are trying to send than you have a SERIOUS comprehension problem. :rolleyes:

But why 3 stripes in the left seat? Me thinks this pic is phony
:D:D:D

IRONY: a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.

I.e. An advert for fast movement at a regional to a major. However, they show a picture of a guy who has been there for 40 years.

That's amusing and contradictory to the message they are trying to send.

GET IT? Jeez........

Where is "Gulfstream Girl" when we need her........

No.. I definitely don't. Just part of the package here at PDT. I apologize I misread your initial post as being lighthearted.

Side note: the CA pictured has led a VERY interesting life serving his country. Anyone that comes here and gets to work with him should ask him about it

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The last thing the industry needs is a bunch of old guys with grey hair telling young millennials how cool it is. This approach is proven to not work. Airlines are not the only one trying to figure out the pilot shortage, this same problem plagues General Aviation as well and AOPA has already identified these kinds of ads depicting older aviators as not helpful.

Dude she is like a 3 in the real world and an 8 in the aviation world. Act real world bro


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Hey millennials, it's still fun and sometimes cool even. But when you're grey, assuming you got hair, chances are, you will spend at least some time thinking how nice it would be if you had just gone to dental school.

Maybe it's a clever ad. Seeing old geezers in the seat, a potential applicant will think: "They'll retire soon, and I'll move up fast!":); but seeing young pilots in the seat will signal: "I'll be stuck behind them for years.":(

If you see an old Piedmont Geezer you need to thank him! Those guys paved the way and fought hard for Regional contracts and Piedmont set the standard that all other regionals wanted. Contract workrules are probably 20 years old and still better then 80% of all other regional airlines.

Those old Geezer I got to fly with and those oldschool Geezers taught me a ton about aviation.

Only a bunch of entitled pricks would come on her making fun of them.

Anyone that's has flown a dash 8 for over 20 years and hasn't bent metal you can learn from.

My time and piedmont and flying with all these salty dogs has served me well.

I saw a couple of those Piedmont recruiting flyers ripped up in the Express crew room in PHL. I'm guessing someone at AWAC took exception to it.

Yea you really do see less Andes 20-something's making a career out of flying. Most of my students back in the day were 30+. They are the only ones who could afford it. And of those, only a small handful made it through commercial and cfi training. I'm sure the gap being created now will be felt 20 or 30 years from now, worse than the retirements we are currently seeing. And I'm sure automation will be the answer for the airlines.

That's quite alright, it won't be long before they can look out the window and see the 145s parked there. Not saying I'm thrilled but there is a wholly-owned plan going on and PHL is involved.

Oh stop. First off, no one really cares about all the good stuff you learned from the old guys. No one is entitled here either. We are pointing out that it's silly to sell movement and upgrades by putting an old man on the ad. That's like a sports car commercial having the car drive through a school zone or an AA ad showing the penalty box in O'Hare

Well I do!

So you're going to disprove their belief that you're a bunch of snot-nosed little pr!cks by showcasing an airplane which you acquired solely by undercutting another ALPA group?

Good luck with that...

what are these 'ad' things you speak of?

and who was this 'old coot' in the ad?

No one is showcasing, it is the truth. The aircraft will be in PHL and while it may not be fair we will fly some of their routes. This is the danger and benefit for them being a contract carrier. American can giveth and taketh away and Wisconsin is also free to try and shop around with other partners. (See also the failed Delta experiment) If you want to go on about acquiring airplanes, we really should have gotten the 175 initially...it would have been best for all parties, but you would accuse us of stealing that too. Since this is really turning into high school rivalries...goooo PDT! FML!

I'm thinking acquiring 175's was also from undercutting another ALPA Group??? Just saying.:rolleyes:

I wouldn't spend much time arguing with JT8D. Just go back and read all his past quotes and that will sum him up.

Unless your hands are completely clean pointing fingers at others is pretty laughable.

PDT had zero infrastructure and routes that would support a 175 type aircraft. ENY had all that. Bringing PDT into the hubs marketing had planned for the 175 and buying them the facilities and equipment would have been monumentally expensive.

I agree but look at the cost of bringing the 145's over?? You've already got an airline operating them. Mid Atlantic was easily started and many airlines start with no infrastructure.
I wish we just keep the dash 8's till they time out and flow.
Looks like however 145s will be temporary until that structure is built then here comes the 175's

we're not jet pilots we wouldnt get it! Now quit making sense and go play with your prop!

Grabs Prop and walks off.