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davessn763 09-01-2018 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2665751)
There’s a lot of military pilots receiving disability for tinnitus and other related ailments. I was told it easy, just go fill out the paperwork and get a check, I asked what about your medical? chirp chirp chirp....

Tinnitus is not disqualifying for a class 1. If you have a sleep disorder related to tinnitus it can be disqualifying.

Anytime you have a medical issue that might be disqualifying you should call ALPA medical and get their opinion before getting care or reporting on an FAA form.

Av8tr1 09-01-2018 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gundriver64 (Post 2666437)
Yes, unfortunately there are douche-bags in the military who game the system for $$. Most of the VA claims are legitimate. Some are not. In my outfit we just ran a guy off who was getting an 80% disability, but STILL managing to pass a Class II military flight physical and was flying as a line pilot.

What are you saying here? 80% and you shouldn’t be able to pass a class 2?

I’m 90% and hold a class 1 and yes the FAA knows everything in my VA file. I know of others who are over 100% and hold all classes. One guy holds a MOH and Purple Heart with 2 leafs the equivalent of three Purple Hearts. Holds a class two and flies helicopters for a living.

A VA disability does not necessarily mean you are an invaled. There are many with high disability ratings that lead very productive lives.

snowdawg 09-01-2018 01:51 PM

From the bottom on the article: Each count carries a maximum possible sentence of five years in prison, if the defendants are convicted.


Hope these guys think it was worth it.

JohnBurke 09-01-2018 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Av8tr1 (Post 2666555)
What are you saying here? 80% and you shouldn’t be able to pass a class 2?

I’m 90% and hold a class 1 and yes the FAA knows everything in my VA file. I know of others who are over 100% and hold all classes. One guy holds a MOH and Purple Heart with 2 leafs the equivalent of three Purple Hearts. Holds a class two and flies helicopters for a living.

A VA disability does not necessarily mean you are an invaled. There are many with high disability ratings that lead very productive lives.

It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.

Quite a gambit.

As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.

USMCFLYR 09-01-2018 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2666637)
It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.

Quite a gambit.

As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.

I'm not disabled enough not to fly for a living either.
The VA has rules that say for XXX I get a disability rating.
The FAA says that I can get a waiver for that to fly.

Not a thing wrong with it and your cockles are irrelevant.

galaxy flyer 09-01-2018 04:57 PM

John Burke,

As I posted, “disability” pay is not necessarily about being physically disabled, it’s about being paid for injuries suffered during government service. Being made whiole. You are expressly forbidden from suing, for most cases, the government enjoys sovereign immunity. Second, what civilian employer could knowingly expose their employees to hazards routinely seen in the service?

Now, the question is the condition justifying payment potentially disqualifying? Is there fraud, of course, they’re also investigated.

Rickair777,. I’ll stand corrected on the date the disability question was added, but I vividly remember hearing of this potential issue in the late 80s. Maybe memory is fading.

GF

Av8tr1 09-01-2018 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2666637)
It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.

Quite a gambit.

As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.


If one loses a leg and gets an artificial one, is able to walk, run, fly airplanes, fornacate is one no longer disabled? Should they not be compensated for the loss of said leg in the line of duty for country? Or is it once they have that artificial leg and can walk again they are whole again?

I get that you are a troll. Show some respect for your betters who bled for this country. Not everyone is trying to game the system. Some of us fought and bled for you. VA disability is reimbursement for lost abilities that many have found ways around their "disability".

You don't like it run for congress and end support to American soldiers. I'm sure that will warm the cockles of the people around you.

Av8tr1 09-01-2018 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2666637)
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.

Let me make sure I understand your position, if someone has a disability rating and is receiving any compensation from the VA, is it your position that they not be allowed to earn income?

I.e. If you have a disability rating you are not allowed to work?

rickair7777 09-01-2018 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by decrabbitz (Post 2666490)
Re: “benefits”, are we talking about money only, or do “benefits” include such things as VA loans, free tuition, etc? If someone has a “0%” rating and receiving no money are they on the radar?

I *think* they mean traditional VA disability rating payments. Other VA bennies (which every vet is entitled to) are probably not what they're looking for.

I would think a 0% rating would not trigger the benefits question 18(y), but you probably should have reported the original condition which led to a residual 0% rating to the FAA. The 8500 questions all start with "Have you ever..." If you have a 0%, then yes you have at one time.

rickair7777 09-01-2018 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2666637)
It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.

Quite a gambit.

As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.

This guy requaled for SF minus a leg...

https://taskandpurpose.com/boston-gr...pite-injuries/

Think he should get some "disability" comp when he retires?

Now I agree that 90% of folks with handicap plates are probably scamming the system for rock star parking. I could probably get one too, but I'd be embarrassed as an airline pilot.


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