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dera 08-23-2018 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by GoSpeedRacer (Post 2660892)
Go to RPA or EDV. Wait for the class, it’s so worth it.

Time from application to class at RPA is approx. 1 month. No need to wait.
EDV is about 2.5-3 months.

Cujo665 08-23-2018 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2656898)
90% of the people complaining on here have been here less than 2 years and have no idea what you’re talking about. Not to mention the regionals of today look nothing like the regionals of 2013.

Stay relevant!!!!

Actually, they look entirely the same....

One being whipsawed against another....

Hasn’t changed, it was on the precipice... but the pilots of your airline sold out the movement. Learn history, or be destined to repeat it.

Jecain7 08-23-2018 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2660901)
Actually, they look entirely the same....

One being whipsawed against another....

Hasn’t changed, it was on the precipice... but the pilots of your airline sold out the movement. Learn history, or be destined to repeat it.

weren't you fired from eagle 3 times?

chrisreedrules 08-23-2018 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2660901)
Actually, they look entirely the same....

One being whipsawed against another....

Hasn’t changed, it was on the precipice... but the pilots of your airline sold out the movement. Learn history, or be destined to repeat it.

They look entirely different than they did in 2013. The industry looks entirely different than it did in 2013. And who is being whipsawed against who in 2018?

havick206 08-23-2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by camper1 (Post 2656218)
This place is a dumpster fire. The only way we can get improvements in pay and QOL is if you, the potential new hire, stops showing up to new hire class.

New hires, please take time to read the other recent threads on PSA. Do yourself and us a favor.

Current employees, please stop referring your friends to PSA. The referral bonus is nice but it will be peanuts if we can get pay increases.

Why don’t you grow a pair and leave?

Cujo665 08-24-2018 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Jecain7 (Post 2660945)
weren't you fired from eagle 3 times?

The record is 7 firings for a union guy...
At the time, 3 of the past 5 NY CA Reps had been fired at least twice each. It doesn't pay to fight city hall; which is why the regional unions are destined to be window dressing.


Mine was twice, not three.
Turned out to be a blessing.

meyers9163 08-25-2018 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2660901)
Actually, they look entirely the same....

One being whipsawed against another....

Hasn’t changed, it was on the precipice... but the pilots of your airline sold out the movement. Learn history, or be destined to repeat it.

He’s an idiot. AE guy who wanted PDT and PSA to fold and AE be the only wholly owned AA airline. Unfortunately many saw past that game. However a man getting fired from a regional speaks volumes to his character and what he provides to a work group. That’s almost impossible to accomplish let alone multiple times.

Cujo665 08-25-2018 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2661795)
He’s an idiot. AE guy who wanted PDT and PSA to fold and AE be the only wholly owned AA airline. Unfortunately many saw past that game. However a man getting fired from a regional speaks volumes to his character and what he provides to a work group. That’s almost impossible to accomplish let alone multiple times.

nobody was folding. Jerry Glass of F&H solutions earned his check from AAG. Envoy fires union people because back pay and a fine/penalty is easier than dealing with the difficulty a good union rep causes them. Yes, they violate the CBA that often.

Even the unemployment administrative law judge said it was the most egregious termination he'd seen in 22 years before ruling against the company.

Firing somebody for 4 instances of alleged sick abuse in one year, while refusing to even look at the provided medical records for those same 4 instances... yeah, nothing political going on there.

Then firing them again over a typo on a resignation from a union position claiming they lied. News Flash, the union position isn't really any of their business since the RLA prohibits them from interfering in who does or doesn't do union work. Typo corrected, but MEC chairman neglected to inform company of the correction when the company asked, and poof, the pilot is accused of misrepresentation. Not allowed to explain the misunderstanding, just fired without investigation.

Yep, ultra serious offenses there. Every employer who's looked at the paperwork, hired me. They recognize BS harassment when they see it. Not sure why you don't. We're all pilots, and should stick up for each other rather than continue allowing managements to pit us against one another.

AAG just brought a guy back on the payroll at Envoy as a VP who was the architect of the merger of the Eagles back in 1988. History is destined to repeat itself. The three groups need to start working together or they'll end up screwed again.

Not my battle anymore.

WhiteMorpheus 08-25-2018 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665;

AAG just brought a guy back on the payroll at Envoy as a VP who was the architect of the merger of the Eagles back in 1988. History is destined to repeat itself. The three groups need to start working together or they'll end up screwed again.

Not my battle anymore.

To this, we had better listen.

I've reached out to my brethren at PDT and get the sense that their TA is getting a hard "NO," which is a step in the right direction for all of us. Ratification of that TA would stagnate everyone's pay. This should not be an era of "bring it up to industry average" agreements, it should be an era of industry-leading agreements.

PS: Now give me an AA seniority number already.

FlyingSlowly 08-25-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2661989)
This should not be an era of "bring it up to industry average" agreements, it should be an era of industry-leading agreements.

Exactly...No concessions, all gains. Too many pilots at PSA do not understand this. The days of concessions to the company should be long gone. You don't have to give something up to get $$$ and QOL improvements when there is a supposedly a labor "shortage" in your given field. :mad:


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