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skyxbomb 04-05-2012 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 1164765)
YGTBSM!!! So a lineholder gets a hotel if he has a 5 hour sit but your reserves have to sit at the airport for 12?! Talk about throwing the junior guys under the bus aka eating the young. I would give up crew meals to get rid of that in a heartbeat. But thats me.

You mean other airlines don't do this?? :P

When it's busy, rsvs get used up until 70 hours and sits hot rsv for the last few days of the moth continuously. I'm sure we will get hot rsv down to 8 hours but the problem is, we don't credit anything for it!!

freezingflyboy 04-05-2012 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1164771)
You mean other airlines don't do this?? :P

When it's busy, rsvs get used up until 70 hours and sits hot rsv for the last few days of the moth continuously. I'm sure we will get hot rsv down to 8 hours but the problem is, we don't credit anything for it!!

Thats even WORSE!!! I could maybe stomach 12 hours of hot reserve IF I got paid 12 hours for it. Maybe. But to get nothing?! Y'all's negotiating committee must be a bunch of nancies. Or else a bunchof senior DBs who know they'll be on the unemployment line before they see reserve again.

For reference, at XJT we also get a hotel for a 5+ hour sit but our ready reserves only sit for 4 hours. And get this, THEY CREDIT 4 HOURS OF PAY! Take that to your NC with a big ol' whiskey tango fox pinned to it.

seafeye 04-06-2012 05:14 AM

It's 10 hrs for ready reserve and there is no credit for that or regular reserve.
But you do get 3.6hrs pay per day if you call out sick.
So if you go to work you don't get paid but if you don't go to work you do get paid.
Welcome to PSA.

Fugazi 04-06-2012 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 1164778)
Y'all's negotiating committee must be a bunch of nancies. Or else a bunchof senior DBs who know they'll be on the unemployment line before they see reserve again.

Bingo. The current negotiation committee has nothing to do with the current contract we're stuck with and they claim they're working hard to improve the reserve rules. The senior guys who negotiated our "concessionary contract" did something very similar to what Republic did. We were supposedly getting up to 80 something jets and growing rapidly so in their eyes no one would be on reserve or stuck in the right seat long at all so they put no negotiating capital into reserve rules or FO pay that was even close to being proportional to CA pay. When the TA came out it was voted down by the pilots. Those senior negotiators claim they knew we were going out of business if we didn't get a contract asap. Dornier was out of business and PSA couldn't find parts for their fleet of 328s. The new contract was one to get jets so those guys called an emergency meeting and voted the rejected TA in with only the LEC members. Most of those guys never sat reserve in their career at PSA let alone flew as an FO. They had no clue the perfect storm they were creating for the junior guys but they're not really the type to care anyway.

deadstick35 04-08-2012 05:43 PM

Reading threads like this one really make me NOT miss PSA. I couldn't take the recall when offered, and now I'm glad.

Didn't Mesa's Ornstein once say he didn't have to change anything since he had a stack of resumes 12" high in HR? And how old is this contract?

GoneChemtrailin 04-09-2012 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1164872)
It's 10 hrs for ready reserve and there is no credit for that or regular reserve.
But you do get 3.6hrs pay per day if you call out sick.
So if you go to work you don't get paid but if you don't go to work you do get paid.
Welcome to PSA.

Do you at least get per diem? Then you'd have $15 to show for your efforts. That should about cover the gas for the drive to/from the airport at current prices.

buckeye88 04-09-2012 01:38 PM

Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.

texaspilot76 04-10-2012 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by buckeye88 (Post 1166600)
Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.

Incorrect. You get per diem, but that's it.

johnso29 04-10-2012 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by buckeye88 (Post 1166600)
Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1167014)
Incorrect. You get per diem, but that's it.

Isn't that what he typed? You get paid PER DIEM for hot reserve? :D

freezingflyboy 04-10-2012 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1167038)
Isn't that what he typed? You get paid PER DIEM for hot reserve? :D

Easy there hombre, he's a Texas pilot and therefore always right:D


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