Ohio State and PSA's agreement
11-14-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
Read the article. It says participants must work a minimum of 2 semesters as a flight instructor for the university. I'm sure it would take a little more than 2 to get the required hours.
With the downturn of enrollment in aviation programs, and the reported drop in students getting ratings across the board, exactly how will OSU and PSA help get all of those prospective graduates the numbers of hours required to meet the new minimums of the ATP rule?
I agree with you - I'll bet that it will take more htan 2 semesters of instructing to get the mins (not only total time, but all of the other types of time required too).
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11-14-2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
Too bad you can't just write a check for the ATP. That would make things easy.
You can...but it would be a rather large check.
Probably cheaper to just buy a piper cub and fly the wings off it for 7 or 8 months.
11-14-2012, 11:43 AM
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5th year seniors doing the CFI requirement
6th year seniors oing CFI, indoc, and SIM
Graduation! and "Guaranteed" job
OSU and PSA split the tuition.
Win-Win-Lose
Seriously, though, don't they only need 1000TT and not 1500?
6th year seniors oing CFI, indoc, and SIM
Graduation! and "Guaranteed" job
OSU and PSA split the tuition.
Win-Win-Lose
Seriously, though, don't they only need 1000TT and not 1500?
11-14-2012, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by deadstick35
5th year seniors doing the CFI requirement
6th year seniors oing CFI, indoc, and SIM
Graduation! and "Guaranteed" job
OSU and PSA split the tuition.
Win-Win-Lose
Seriously, though, don't they only need 1000TT and not 1500?
6th year seniors oing CFI, indoc, and SIM
Graduation! and "Guaranteed" job
OSU and PSA split the tuition.
Win-Win-Lose
Seriously, though, don't they only need 1000TT and not 1500?
11-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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One thousand hours are not easy to get as a CFI in Ohio. In the winter, the weather sucks and alot of training (commercial) requires high ceilings for things like chandles etc. Not to mention icing, so there goes your 2 O'clock instrument lesson. This agreement will not by any means meet the staffing requirement for PSA in the years to come, but it's something that might help them, and also OSU get tuition cash.
. OSU is a great university but not for flying.
11-14-2012, 01:22 PM
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Path to Poverty
This appears to be just another carrot on the stick...
Step One, go 40-50 thousand in debt (conservative average)
Step Two, slave away on poverty wages as a CFI for 2-3 years( not enough students)
Step Three, Hired at poverty wages with no QOL into the right seat for 4-5 years.
Now you are in your late 20s or early 30s trying to dig yourself out of a hole.
All this great decision making, just in time for the repeal of age 65 due to "age discrimination". Canada has set the precedent with the no age limit for domestic operations. It's only a matter time before it happens here. That will be a significant part of the solution for the "pilot shortage". The other major solution will be management gaining greater efficency through consolidation and employee productivity.
Step One, go 40-50 thousand in debt (conservative average)
Step Two, slave away on poverty wages as a CFI for 2-3 years( not enough students)
Step Three, Hired at poverty wages with no QOL into the right seat for 4-5 years.
Now you are in your late 20s or early 30s trying to dig yourself out of a hole.
All this great decision making, just in time for the repeal of age 65 due to "age discrimination". Canada has set the precedent with the no age limit for domestic operations. It's only a matter time before it happens here. That will be a significant part of the solution for the "pilot shortage". The other major solution will be management gaining greater efficency through consolidation and employee productivity.
11-14-2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BackintheLPA
This appears to be just another carrot on the stick...
Step One, go 40-50 thousand in debt (conservative average)
Step Two, slave away on poverty wages as a CFI for 2-3 years( not enough students)
Step Three, Hired at poverty wages with no QOL into the right seat for 4-5 years.
Now you are in your late 20s or early 30s trying to dig yourself out of a hole.
All this great decision making, just in time for the repeal of age 65 due to "age discrimination". Canada has set the precedent with the no age limit for domestic operations. It's only a matter time before it happens here. That will be a significant part of the solution for the "pilot shortage". The other major solution will be management gaining greater efficency through consolidation and employee productivity.
Step One, go 40-50 thousand in debt (conservative average)
Step Two, slave away on poverty wages as a CFI for 2-3 years( not enough students)
Step Three, Hired at poverty wages with no QOL into the right seat for 4-5 years.
Now you are in your late 20s or early 30s trying to dig yourself out of a hole.
All this great decision making, just in time for the repeal of age 65 due to "age discrimination". Canada has set the precedent with the no age limit for domestic operations. It's only a matter time before it happens here. That will be a significant part of the solution for the "pilot shortage". The other major solution will be management gaining greater efficency through consolidation and employee productivity.
