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bradeku1008 02-25-2014 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1589715)
How long between app and a call for interview?

Usually less than a week to get the call, then they will give you a list of dates to interview

bradeku1008 02-25-2014 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by evilboy (Post 1589713)
Thanks. Still wonder why bother with the written nowadays.


The written is a piece of cake. The gouges have all the questions and answers to it.

JetToy 02-25-2014 04:42 PM

Hiring everyone at FO level?

bradeku1008 02-25-2014 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by JetToy (Post 1589742)
Hiring everyone at FO level?


Yes. Probably won't see street CAs, upgrades are going to be 2 years, possibly less if we can keep filling classes.

Chrisw 02-25-2014 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1589715)
How long between app and a call for interview?

I will address this as I am in class now. During the Last phase of the interview which is a panel interview they will ask you to leave the room for a couple minutes to talk about you. When they invite you back in if they say, "we will let you know..." Don't hold your breath and start filling out other apps. Otherwise they will give you an offer right there with a class date. Attitude is everything in the interview. Be humble and be excited about the career progression opportunities. If you can fly and have a good attitude and are not completely dumb you WILL get an offer.

JetToy 02-26-2014 03:46 PM

Family privileges for who?

RJ Pilot 02-26-2014 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 1589769)
Yes. Probably won't see street CAs, upgrades are going to be 2 years, possibly less if we can keep filling classes.

Doubt it.

A message from the PSA MEC;

Staffing Shortage Update
PSA management has recently taken a number of actions in an attempt to mitigate the pilot staffing shortage. First, management denied or canceled all Association leave for January, February, and March. Second, this weekend, management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March.

Third, management advised the MEC yesterday that it was canceling vacations for pilots bidding in Round 2 due to extremely short staffing in March. Section 7.H of the Collective Bargaining Agreement describes the responsibilities of pilots and the company when taking this action. As the shortage continues, further vacation cancellations may occur, so every pilot is encouraged to review the language.

Fourth, management has canceled selected recurrent training events—both ground schools and LOFT sessions—over the past week to mitigate the shortage temporarily. This move creates a number of contractual complications in the rescheduling of these events. Delaying training is also unsustainable as it creates further training backlog.

The MEC is concerned that management’s focus on fixing immediate problems will compound the difficulties of implementing new aircraft. Therefore, we strongly encourage PSA management to take a longer view, using realistic targets with a sufficient margin to allow for success. Attempting to operate on a razor thin margin reduces the chances of success during the coming year and is likely to deteriorate the working environment for PSA pilots. We mustn’t be the continued victims of improper planning.
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Sweet.

astec 02-26-2014 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1590721)
Doubt it.

A message from the PSA MEC;

Staffing Shortage Update
PSA management has recently taken a number of actions in an attempt to mitigate the pilot staffing shortage. First, management denied or canceled all Association leave for January, February, and March. Second, this weekend, management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March.

Third, management advised the MEC yesterday that it was canceling vacations for pilots bidding in Round 2 due to extremely short staffing in March. Section 7.H of the Collective Bargaining Agreement describes the responsibilities of pilots and the company when taking this action. As the shortage continues, further vacation cancellations may occur, so every pilot is encouraged to review the language.

Fourth, management has canceled selected recurrent training events—both ground schools and LOFT sessions—over the past week to mitigate the shortage temporarily. This move creates a number of contractual complications in the rescheduling of these events. Delaying training is also unsustainable as it creates further training backlog.

The MEC is concerned that management’s focus on fixing immediate problems will compound the difficulties of implementing new aircraft. Therefore, we strongly encourage PSA management to take a longer view, using realistic targets with a sufficient margin to allow for success. Attempting to operate on a razor thin margin reduces the chances of success during the coming year and is likely to deteriorate the working environment for PSA pilots. We mustn’t be the continued victims of improper planning.
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Sweet.

There is relief coming, but thanks to the guy running the staffing models, staffing is going to be screwed for the next month or two or four. It'll be fun for sure

Paid2fly 02-26-2014 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1590721)
Doubt it.

A message from the PSA MEC;

Staffing Shortage Update
PSA management has recently taken a number of actions in an attempt to mitigate the pilot staffing shortage. First, management denied or canceled all Association leave for January, February, and March. Second, this weekend, management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March.

Third, management advised the MEC yesterday that it was canceling vacations for pilots bidding in Round 2 due to extremely short staffing in March. Section 7.H of the Collective Bargaining Agreement describes the responsibilities of pilots and the company when taking this action. As the shortage continues, further vacation cancellations may occur, so every pilot is encouraged to review the language.

Fourth, management has canceled selected recurrent training events—both ground schools and LOFT sessions—over the past week to mitigate the shortage temporarily. This move creates a number of contractual complications in the rescheduling of these events. Delaying training is also unsustainable as it creates further training backlog.

The MEC is concerned that management’s focus on fixing immediate problems will compound the difficulties of implementing new aircraft. Therefore, we strongly encourage PSA management to take a longer view, using realistic targets with a sufficient margin to allow for success. Attempting to operate on a razor thin margin reduces the chances of success during the coming year and is likely to deteriorate the working environment for PSA pilots. We mustn’t be the continued victims of improper planning.
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Sweet.





Couldn't happen to a nicer group of sellouts...

spuzzyair 02-26-2014 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1590739)
There is relief coming, but thanks to the guy running the staffing models, staffing is going to be screwed for the next month or two or four. It'll be fun for sure


Relief coming? How? If they cant staff, which means they have problems hiring, how is relief coming? It's only going to get worse.

gold 02-27-2014 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by spuzzyair (Post 1590978)
Relief coming? How? If they cant staff, which means they have problems hiring, how is relief coming? It's only going to get worse.

It's not a problem of not finding new hires. Classes have been nearly full. Right now it's two class of 16-18 bringing the total to 32-36 new hires a month. The number will increase even further. The current shortfall is more on the captain side caused by the training department tripling in size and taking captains offline to instruct in the sims. Almost 100 FOs have been added since November, once the situation works itself out we will be overstaffed for a short time until the 900s start arriving.

RJ Pilot 02-27-2014 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1591001)
It's not a problem of not finding new hires. Classes have been nearly full. Right now it's two class of 16-18 bringing the total to 32-36 new hires a month. The number will increase even further. The current shortfall is more on the captain side caused by the training department tripling in size and taking captains offline to instruct in the sims. Almost 100 FOs have been added since November, once the situation works itself out we will be overstaffed for a short time until the 900s start arriving.

32-36 new hires.

Liar.

pagey 02-27-2014 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1591011)
32-36 new hires.

Liar.

The most recent bid, which I think was published on Tuesday had 32 new hires.

Although I don't know why I am responding to RJP.

ORDinary 02-27-2014 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1587948)
My favorite is the eagle guys who say "we're being offered the exact same TA as you guys". Really? PSA was never offered a 4 year pay freeze across the board like eagle. You guys love to leave that little bit out. In fact, we're all getting a contractual raise in April.

The reason we were offered a freeze was specifically because, according to our management, we had to match PSA. That's what they have told us repeatedly. They literally want to lower our pay because you guys have such low pay. They remind us all the time it is because of you. Have a nice day!

gold 02-27-2014 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1591011)
32-36 new hires.

Liar.

PSA has hired over 100 pilots in the last six months. The training department has roughly tripled in size after adding two former comair sims in CVG. Several captains became full-time sim instructors as a result. The captains leaving the line combined with 117 has caused PSA to be short on the captain side not lack of new-hires. FOs are upgrading and working as ground instructors, causing PSA to be short there as well. Again, it's growing pains and part 117, not lack of new hires like Eagle and Expressjet. Currently PSA is upgrading 16 a month and if anything that number will increase. You can speculate all you want, but these are the simple facts. Just about everyone that has received an interview with Airways through the special selection process is getting hired.

gold 02-27-2014 11:28 AM

If anyone is considering PSA and has questions, feel free to send me a PM.

seafeye 02-27-2014 11:35 AM

A lot of us NO voters are taking everything day by day. Because of the SAP and the 117 many 8 year captains are going to gross six figures this year.
We aren't happy about the TA but making the most of it. Next month critical pay comes into effect (April). Then the opportunity to make more money is available.

Meatball 02-27-2014 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1591373)
If anyone is considering PSA and has questions, feel free to send me a PM.

And you'll tell them how wonderful Piece of Sh*t Airlines is and how proud you were to bend over.

gold 02-27-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Meatball (Post 1591407)
And you'll tell them how wonderful Piece of Sh*t Airlines is and how proud you were to bend over.

I use this website to research and provide helpful info to others, nothing more. I don't need to inject my opinion all over the place, just the facts that I believe could be of use to others.

RJ Pilot 02-27-2014 01:37 PM

*** Caution*** If you are PSA employed, YOU might have a HARD time commuting.

Plan accordingly.

SimJumpSeat 02-27-2014 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1591508)
*** Caution*** If you are PSA employed, YOU might have a HARD time commuting.

Plan accordingly.

RJ Pilot, you are such a P.O.S. Hope you get everything you deserve one of these days.

Moonwolf 02-27-2014 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1591533)
RJ Pilot, you are such a P.O.S. Hope you get everything you deserve one of these days.

Usually one ignores Rj posts, you however took the bait.

Ps, just by reading your posts your don't yet work for psa ? Correct? Yet you a getting angry like you are already getting denied a jumpseat...hmm.

mia389 02-27-2014 03:10 PM

I remember getting denied the JS on a Northwest DC9 because I worked at 9E. It was the first time I ever tried to jump seat. The next DC9 I Jump seated on, the flight crew was very angry at their coworkers. They said, "Some union we are".

I heard so many guys talk crap about go-jet. When they jump seated, you would of thought they were a company employee.

There are trolls and idiots at every company I learned quite quickly. I think most people would have better things to do than get ****ed at a different companies employees because of things that goes on over their heads. They think they have everything figured out and don't realize they are only one piece of a very large puzzle.

Then again this is a regional thread on a forum. All professionalism is out the window. Learning who to ignore very quickly.


Edit: This is Vbulletin and the user ignore function is turned off :-(

Saabs 02-27-2014 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by mia389 (Post 1591558)
I remember getting denied the JS on a Northwest DC9 because I worked at 9E. It was the first time I ever tried to jump seat. The next DC9 I Jump seated on, the flight crew was very angry at their coworkers. They said, "Some union we are".

I heard so many guys talk crap about go-jet. When they jump seated, you would of thought they were a company employee.

There are trolls and idiots at every company I learned quite quickly. I think most people would have better things to do than get ****ed at a different companies employees because of things that goes on over their heads. They think they have everything figured out and don't realize they are only one piece of a very large puzzle.

Then again this is a regional thread on a forum. All professionalism is out the window. Learning who to ignore very quickly.

according to APC as a colganite I was going to.be denied jumpseat back in 2007-2008 by expressjet pilots and a year ago when pinnacle voted in concessions. Never denied once..... nor have I heard of any PSA pilot ever getting denied. But In APC land .....

RJ Pilot 02-27-2014 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1591533)
RJ Pilot, you are such a P.O.S. Hope you get everything you deserve one of these days.


Please, stay in flight safety and keep flying those video games. One day you might get back to real flying.

Chrisw 02-27-2014 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1591011)
32-36 new hires.

Liar.

You are correct. He does lie. The number is more along the lines of 40 plus soon to be 50 not 32-36. Classes are to be 25 every two weeks from what I hear moving forward. My class was full, the two before me were full, the two after me were full and the class starting this Monday is full.

Meatball 02-27-2014 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1591434)
I use this website to research and provide helpful info to others, nothing more. I don't need to inject my opinion all over the place, just the facts that I believe could be of use to others.

Good luck getting on my jumpseat.

babs 02-27-2014 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Chrisw (Post 1591641)
You are correct. He does lie. The number is more along the lines of 40 plus soon to be 50 not 32-36. Classes are to be 25 every two weeks from what I hear moving forward. My class was full, the two before me were full, the two after me were full and the class starting this Monday is full.

Good for you! Chase those big shiny jets!

SimJumpSeat 02-27-2014 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1591546)
Usually one ignores Rj posts, you however took the bait.

Ps, just by reading your posts your don't yet work for psa ? Correct? Yet you a getting angry like you are already getting denied a jumpseat...hmm.

Remember that whole.......if ya don't have anything good to say, shut the ******* up. If APC would ban all the hot air you insecure whiners are spewing, the grownups might be able to find the information we seek from the PSA people who "quietly get the job done"

I've never seen so many stupid and irrelevant comments from a group of professionals. HONESTLY......I'm shocked and embarrassed for you....can't imagine what it would be like to fly a 4-day with you guys' positive and upbeat attitudes. You losers ever decide to help someone or improve another persons future......PM me....I'd love to witness that! Now, do us all a favor, cash in your APC seniority, and take a *******ing hike!!

Pain 02-27-2014 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1591627)
Please, stay in flight safety and keep flying those video games. One day you might get back to real flying.

Trolls just want to have fun

Psychopathology of internet trolls, sorry, didn't realize the link would only show as the silly title.

Chrisw 02-27-2014 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 1591702)
Good for you! Chase those big shiny jets!

Wow that was a productive post that directly related to what I said that you quoted. Thank you for the valuable contribution in regards to my statement.

RJ Pilot 02-28-2014 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Pain (Post 1591742)
Trolls just want to have fun

Psychopathology of internet trolls, sorry, didn't realize the link would only show as the silly title.

Not a Psychopath. Simjumpseat used to work at Eagle he quit because he couldn't hack it. Now he is "flying" simulators in Flightsafety.

PSA is his only salvation at this point.

SimJumpSeat 02-28-2014 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1592087)
Not a Psychopath. Simjumpseat used to work at Eagle he quit because he couldn't hack it. Now he is "flying" simulators in Flightsafety.

PSA is his only salvation at this point.

Yep I left!! And, in that time I've made just under $1million total in salary and contract flying......slept in my own sleep comfort bed EVERYNIGHT....my razor and toothbrush are always in the same place....pocketed multiple type ratings......and......drumroll.....

Have the pleasure of issuing ATP certs to young pilots, who unlike yourself, are smart enough NOT to be losers who make stupid career choices that lead to depression, hindsight, and apathy; from which you obviously suffer.

Anything else RJ??

RJ Pilot 02-28-2014 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1592184)
Yep I left!! And, in that time I've made just under $1million total in salary and contract flying......slept in my own sleep comfort bed EVERYNIGHT....my razor and toothbrush are always in the same place....pocketed multiple type ratings......and......drumroll.....

Have the pleasure of issuing ATP certs to young pilots, who unlike yourself, are smart enough NOT to be losers who make stupid career choices that lead to depression, hindsight, and apathy; from which you obviously suffer.

Anything else RJ??

and then you are begging to get on a regional. PSA of all of them…

CaptKrunch 02-28-2014 01:21 PM

Thank the maker we have a glorious gate keeper like RJ to guide CFI's. What would people do with out him spreading his opinion.

SimJumpSeat 02-28-2014 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1592216)
and then you are begging to get on a regional. PSA of all of them…

Are you as incompetent as your posts make you sound?

SimJumpSeat 02-28-2014 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by CaptKrunch (Post 1592235)
Thank the maker we have a glorious gate keeper like RJ to guide CFI's. What would people do with out him spreading his opinion.

They might not have anyone to hate.....no one to think about while taking a crap.

RJ Pilot 02-28-2014 03:02 PM

Planning on commuting out of DFW to one of the PSA bases?

SimJumpSeat 02-28-2014 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1592316)
Planning on commuting out of DFW to one of the PSA bases?

You've gone too far now.....I'm gonna tell my mommy on you.

Yawn....


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