PSA & Eagle flying?
 

Where do they go? Example:

Eagle out of DFW, from what I see, seems to do the "hub out and back" type flying. DFW to PNS to DFW.......DFW to SHV to DFW.

PSA......if based in TYS.....where do you go? According to flightaware, flights run primarily to CLT, DCA, DAY. So, is that all you do or are you in other systems for your 4 day trip, instead of just out and backs to TYS......then back home on a CLT to TYS? Understand the question?

Thanks

Heres a tys trip for ya

TYS-CLT
CLT-GNV
GNV-CLT
CLT-JAN

JAN-CLT
CLT-CHA

CHA-DCA
DCA-MHT

MHT-PHL
PHL-CLE
CLE-PHL
PHL-TYS

Outstation bases have never made any sense to me either.

Seems pretty easy to figure out. Hub isn't in TYS for airways. Therefore you fly to hub and do turns.

CLT is mostly CLT turns

Day and Tys do a lot of PHL and DCA flying

Seems pretty easy to figure out who the tools are too...

WOW.....why didn't I think before asking the question; especially since I already knew the answer??

To the other folks, thanks for the help.

All the eagle bases do turns in and out of the hubs. Also we do a lot of other hubs flying.

When I was in ORD, I had trips going thru MIA, DFW or NYC. Sometimes you have trips that start in your base and don't get back until the last day.

PSA serves around 60-70 cities from CLT, DCA and PHL. The 700s don't fly into DCA or PHL. DAY and CAK are maintenance bases and TYS is nothing more than a crew base mostly feeding into DCA and PHL. With the 900s coming, PSA will probably open a new maintenance base somewhere which could lead to another crew base. DAY and CAK are not large enough to accommodate enough 900s at one time.

Good morning folks. Not to change the subject but have a couple of questions regarding PSA if you don't mind.

1) How many guaranteed days off per month?.
2) Is it a PIC checkride?.
3) Not sure, but assuming there's no training contract, right?.
4) In general and as new hire, how is QOL?.

I am considering going back to regionals and obviously starting to look around. Thank you for the answers.

11 days off guarantee.
Yes you will get a ATP/type. ( I am pretty sure everyone has to do this now)
No training contract
QOL as a new hire SUCKS. scheduling abuses you. But for right now your not on reserve for long. QOL as a line holder is decent.

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Thanks for the answers. One last question. How many days off with a line?.
Thanks.

Thanks Gold

And this is the post where the thread derails. Do some research on here, PSA has been a topic of controversy for several months now. Their pilots do not have a good reputation and are not well liked by others in the industry. Just keep that in mind.

Another classy post from a disgruntled eagle pilot

Nothing of what I said is untrue. It wasnt meant as a jab at PSA just sharing the reality of the situation.

I've met crews on hotel van from Air Wiskey, Pinnacle and Express jet... None had anything good to say about PSA...

Who cares? These are the same guys on here, who wouldn't dare say anything to a PSA pilots face...

Every one of these pilots who hate PSA base their hate off of opinions from other FO's and Captains. None have actually talked to a PSA pilot, or read into any facts.

Most can't get over their big manly ego's they've built up being big mighy Barbie jet pilots

Get over yourselves. It's going nowhere, and getting downright sad now.

Ummmmm YUP

I am dying to meet a PSA and respectfully ask them what is their major malfunction.... Been in this biz way too long to not speak out..

My favorite is the eagle guys who say "we're being offered the exact same TA as you guys". Really? PSA was never offered a 4 year pay freeze across the board like eagle. You guys love to leave that little bit out. In fact, we're all getting a contractual raise in April.

OMG, well I was in the van with Delta, SkyWest, Air Whisky, Commutair, ExpressJet, AirTran, Southwest, Pinnacle, Colgan, PSA and Republic guys and they were talking crap about everybody. Now lets all sing.

C'mon man. What a POS response. :D

In before the lock!

And if I'm your FO during that encounter, I will let you get your a$$ whipped, so I can put it on youtube, get a million hits, get advertisement, and make a few bucks. I'm down if you are!

......ditto!

So what you are saying that someone would physically attack me while I am , like I said, respectfully asking why they voted for a pos contract when they were not BK, are own by the same company n belong to the same union.. Im just asking... You want to kick my a** thats your prob

What makes you think they voted in this contract? Who are you to belittle someone because you think they voted one way or another

So who voted.. ? Your neighbor?

worldstar!!!!!!!!!!!

Word up!!!!

Yea I would kick your a$$ for using respectfully and pos in the same sentence and expect someone not to be offended. I'm just saying...

I would love to meet you, so I can direct you to the unemployment line...

You PSA folks are a little sensitive about your contract huh? Rethinking concessions in a time like this? You should be.

PSA pilots are like the illegal immigrant. They both come here and take everyones job away by undercutting pay, work rules. But at least the illegal immigrant has some dignity.

Depends on seniority and base. Tys you can get up to 15 days off by strait bidding. If you use SAP you just need 65 hours on the month , 18 days off or so. However ALL of the reserve lines are min days off.

Thanks again CaptKrunch. Appreciate it.

Yep your right. Same company same union. Yet work for different companies that bid for the same flying.

Did they scare you by telling you they were going to shut you down and give the the flying away to another carrier?

Lets put the gloves down and talk rationaly here. You hit the nail on the head. The problem is that PSA is very small. 32 200's and 14 700's. A pilot group with now just over 500, not nearly the size of Eagle. All Parker cares about are metrics! On-time performance and right start.. Oh and Fuel consumption. Bottom line he does not care about us and being wholly owned, he can shutter us at the snap of his fingers.
It would go like this on the golf course with his drinking buddy J.O. Hey Jerry, want 30+ next Gen 900's to fly for me? However, I will not pay you a penny more, the only thing you get are new planes and a contract extension, oh and I have 14 700's you can add to the mix, sound good? Great, lets get a drink! Phone call to Keith Houke, you are finsihed, I will begin to park your 200's and farm that flying to AWAC or Skywest. Take care now...
So was it a scare tactic, who knows, however, we really do not offer much to Doug except for being RED ink on his expense sheet. Now, as far as shuttering Eagle, you guys provide an exceptional amount of lift, however, Doug is a numbers guy, has been and always will be. So only time will tell if he goes through with his threats. All I know is the regional industry is a mess and the only winners are management.

Thank you for your reply and I appreciate your point of view.. But I think it would have been so much better if our MECs would have better dialogue and present a unified front. We are in a time of pilot shortage and we need to take advantage of the situation...i might be wrong, but I dont think they would've shut you down... In this market 500 pilots is alot

I agree with you Skydude, and it's all my speculation on whether or not we would have shut down. I can say though that had there been a no vote, the 900's would have gone elsewhere and the growth of PSA would have stagnated. If there is ever a time for EVERYBODY to unify it is now. Jump seat wars, my regional is better then your regional is getting tirelessly old. I am one of the older guys here, mid 40's and it's time that we all treat each other with a little respect and dignity. Unfortunately what's done is done, and we can't change that, but what we can change is how we treat one another and act. It's a long shot, but what the heck, it's worth a try.