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JohnnyDingus 01-29-2015 01:26 PM

The Useful PSA Thread
 
No because you are technically eligible to fly yet. Those trips just get handed to a reservist.

CRJail 01-29-2015 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 1814475)
Thats what I though... Makes zero sense.

Makes zero sense? Now I'm sure it's happening!!!

Pilot800 01-29-2015 02:53 PM

Does the 1000 hrs 121 have to be jet or in type or does turbo prop count?

CRJail 01-29-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot800 (Post 1814675)
Does the 1000 hrs 121 have to be jet or in type or does turbo prop count?

Any 121 time, in any company, in any airplane

Irishblackbird 01-29-2015 05:33 PM

If pilot (a) is hired prior to pilot (b) who has 1000 hrs of 121, and pilot B upgrades before pilot A, did pilot A just loose senority? What happens when pilot A meets the 121 requirements and there is no upgrade available? Is pilot A pay protected? Would pilot A be laid off before pilot B if there is downsizing?

CLT Guy 01-29-2015 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 1814770)
If pilot (a) is hired prior to pilot (b) who has 1000 hrs of 121, and pilot B upgrades before pilot A, did pilot A just loose senority? What happens when pilot A meets the 121 requirements and there is no upgrade available? Is pilot A pay protected? Would pilot A be laid off before pilot B if there is downsizing?

Pilot A does not lose seniority. If the upgrades were to stop for some reason, then Pilot A will remain a FO until there is an upgrade class. If there are furlough's, then the junior pilot (in this case it would be Pilot "B" who is a Captain) would be furloughed and not the more senior one.

When pilot "A" does upgrade, he/she will be able to bid ahead of pilot "B". I have heard that some people are bypassing upgrade for a few months so they can hold a line in the base of their choosing immediately as a Captain.

When upgrades do stop at an airline, there are always guys that are stuck as an FO because they bypassed an upgrade for some reason. It is unfortunate.

tom11011 01-29-2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 1814770)
If pilot (a) is hired prior to pilot (b) who has 1000 hrs of 121, and pilot B upgrades before pilot A, did pilot A just loose senority? What happens when pilot A meets the 121 requirements and there is no upgrade available? Is pilot A pay protected? Would pilot A be laid off before pilot B if there is downsizing?

There has to be a captain opening. If there is then pilot A gets it if he is qualified. If not the opening goes to the next pilot down the list if he can hold it. A newly qualified captain does not displace an existing captain who is junior. Again there had to first be an opening for an upgrade. Any layoffs occur in reverse seniority order regardless.

CFIatKFXE 01-30-2015 06:03 AM

I still have about 400 hours to go before I hit 1500. Was excited about joining PSA with all the positive movements. Since PSA is hiring like crazy, the upgrade time isn't 8-10 months anymore and more like 2 years. Has the PSA ship sailed? Does anyone know?

CRJail 01-30-2015 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1815062)
I still have about 400 hours to go before I hit 1500. Was excited about joining PSA with all the positive movements. Since PSA is hiring like crazy, the upgrade time isn't 8-10 months anymore and more like 2 years. Has the PSA ship sailed? Does anyone know?

Upgrade is still about 8 months. By the rime you'll be at 1500 it'll probably be longer. Nevertheless, I think movement is still going to be positive in 6 months. 2 year upgrade is VERY GOOD, especially if it's your first 121 job

cartean 01-30-2015 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1815062)
I still have about 400 hours to go before I hit 1500. Was excited about joining PSA with all the positive movements. Since PSA is hiring like crazy, the upgrade time isn't 8-10 months anymore and more like 2 years. Has the PSA ship sailed? Does anyone know?

It's still 8-10 months for people who have 1000 hrs 121. Since you don't it will take you close to two years to get the experience needed to upgrade anyway. I think PSA is still a good choice.


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