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Theonemarine 09-15-2015 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo664 (Post 1971933)
I can tell you in one word ONE of the reasons Envoy is going to be flying the CRJ's into the forseeable future. Aspen.

It's already been said here, PSA can't get their training program together and the experience level to fly into an airport like ASE sure isn't there.

Again with this? Did you skip over the entire page of me asking why you guys have such a hard on for Aspen? I understand that there's this mentality that somehow you guys are better than Virgin Galactic pilots and NASA is a lesser being for never choosing Eagle pilots to man the shuttle, but why are you guys so hung up on ONE destination? I don't care about the planes or anything else from you guys. I'm just amazed at this one hookup...

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KingAirpilot90 09-15-2015 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Theonemarine (Post 1971970)
Again with this? Did you skip over the entire page of me asking why you guys have such a hard on for Aspen? I understand that there's this mentality that somehow you guys are better than Virgin Galactic pilots and NASA is a lesser being for never choosing Eagle pilots to man the shuttle, but why are you guys so hung up on ONE destination? I don't care about the planes or anything else from you guys. I'm just amazed at this one hookup...

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It's the same deal with these guys lol. They look for any little "Anti-PSA" propaganda that they can find and once they do they run with it like wild animals to the point where their wives consider taking their secret toy out of the box due to the lack of attention they get from their troll husbands

Theonemarine 09-15-2015 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90 (Post 1971988)
It's the same deal with these guys lol. They look for any little "Anti-PSA" propaganda that they can find and once they do they run with it like wild animals to the point where their wives consider taking their secret toy out of the box due to the lack of attention they get from their troll husbands

I mean, I'm the first to say this place will destroy your career and the management will cheat you for every penny they can through pure unethical behaviour but man, they get hooked on the craziest things. This Aspen thing is ridiculous. No one here gives a flying *beep* about Aspen.

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Envoy Envious 09-15-2015 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by BrewCity (Post 1971963)
What's to stop AA from contracting with Skywest to fly a few CRJ 700s in and out of Aspen?

Skywest is about the only regional carrier even remotely qualified to do this. I would call them ALMOST but not quite on par with Envoy. Besides Envoy and Skywest, I'm not getting in the back of any other regional's aircraft flying into ASE. Too risky.

PSAJOBS 09-15-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by 3inthegreen (Post 1971924)
WOW, 150!!!!!!! I stand corrected!!! 148 was my guess and I don't even work there, but I guess I am out in left field aren't I. Well my goodness that is good news!!! 150 you must be proud!!! Now as for the DEC's I feel bad for those dudes, the second oil goes back up next year and they decide to sacrifice the 50 seaters in order to keep your 900's flying during the staffing crisis I am pretty sure that will trigger a displacement bid? And won't that be a shocker for those guys getting the boot back to the right seat. But well done, hiring 100 DEC's this summer was quite an accomplishment. Last real FO class was what, end of May. I think you are right on target with getting your 60 new pilots a month you need in order to keep those final 16 options coming you way.

Left field? Yes. Do a search of displacement bidding. I believe our contract is online so you could read it and you would know what triggers a displacement bid.
Proud? Yes I'm very proud of the people who work here and this airline.
What are you proud of? Misguided, ill informed opinions of things you have no knowledge of to begin with?
Is recruiting harder than it was a year ago? Of course it is. We still have 61 more airplanes coming. Is there another airline with that many on the way? Why don't we offer incentives? We haven't needed to so far. Will we? It certainly is possible but not today.

PSAJOBS 09-15-2015 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo664 (Post 1971997)
Skywest is about the only regional carrier even remotely qualified to do this. I would call them ALMOST but not quite on par with Envoy. Besides Envoy and Skywest, I'm not getting in the back of any other regional's aircraft flying into ASE. Too risky.

Do you know we have hired hundreds of pilots who were flying CRJ's for 10, 15 or 20 years? Most classes were over 7000 average hours.

Envoy Envious 09-15-2015 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by PSAJOBS (Post 1972003)
Do you know we have hired hundreds of pilots who were flying CRJ's for 10, 15 or 20 years? Most classes were over 7000 average hours.

Interesting. They may regret their decision. Why not apply at Envoy and be at AA in 6 years? One interview and then an easy transfer over to AA. They should have dropped by our wildly successful ORD job fair this past week. Amazing amount of highly qualified guys who realize what Envoy has to offer. The line was literally out the door. Smart people are realizing that the quickest path to AA lies with Envoy.

gold 09-15-2015 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by PSAJOBS (Post 1972000)
We still have 61 more airplanes coming. Is there another airline with that many on the way? Why don't we offer incentives? We haven't needed to so far. Will we? It certainly is possible but not today.

My popcorn is popped and I'm ready to watch the airline have a staffing melt down sometime in the future. It might take several months, but it will happen. Right now it's calm before the storm. The attitude of not needing additional incentives to attract pilots proves how behind the power curve things are.

Lvlng4Spd 09-15-2015 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo664 (Post 1971997)
Skywest is about the only regional carrier even remotely qualified to do this. I would call them ALMOST but not quite on par with Envoy. Besides Envoy and Skywest, I'm not getting in the back of any other regional's aircraft flying into ASE. Too risky.

I'm sure Republic does just fine with the Q400 in Aspen. I wouldn't hesitate to ride on that flight at all.

PDTpilotXX 09-15-2015 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1972008)
My popcorn is popped and I'm ready to watch the airline have a staffing melt down sometime in the future. It might take several months, but it will happen. Right now it's calm before the storm. The attitude of not needing additional incentives to attract pilots proves how behind the power curve things are.

I agree...
All THREE need to be offering A LOT. If they want 78% of all AA hires to come from us, PSA needs to join the club and start bulking up NOW and not be playing catch up....


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