That doesn't even make sense. If it's 20 month that would make a class size of a min of 48 since PDT gets 4 and Envoy gets a minimum of 50%.

Dude he is just trolling. It's 15/month


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After Envoy's 824 pilots are completed, PSA flow moves to 28 per month.

Haha fat kid in moms basement is back at it again.

All PSA is getting is an increase to 6 per month and straight flow.

They gave up SAP and critical pay to get it.

I'm a little busy this week but I am gonna enjoy going back through this thread and others to pull out the soundbytes of various PSA fanboyz saying how they would never give up SAP - ever ever ever ever.

Actually, it's 5. Pitiful and they can bite me.

However, we didn't give up anything. Still SAP, still a broken critical structure until the arbitrator decides, still have everything else. All they get is DEC language. But I'll let you get back to being busy inventing fantasies about your ENY space shuttle program. Meanwhile I'll continue to give period REAL reasons to avoid PSA until they realize 5/month is a worthless number relegating us to prison for 15 years.

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They haven't got it yet, it has to be voted on. Anything less that 12 /month should be voted down immediately. AAG is not going to let any one of the wholly owneds raise pay. And the "quick upgrade" only lasts for so long. An increased flow is all we realistically have to attract new hires. The company knows this, but they are too worried about the immediate staffing issue, which would be solved near term and long term by a flow of 12 to 15 /month. Always losing the forest for the trees.

And some may not care about SAP because "it's been broken for a while now". But it's only broken because management wants it broken. Maybe for this very reason here. Having the SAP was one of the main reasons myself and many others came to PSA. If it remains broken or is voted away, I won't stay here. Nor will many other FOs.

The ball is in our court. Here is what we want: Fix the SAP NOW. And 15 /month. That is the position we should be negotiating from. But from what I hear, our MEC is pretty much inept at negotiating with this management. So I won't be surprised if they try and tout some crap TA as "the best we are going to get" and convince pilots it's worth a yes vote.

You are telling lies again. Period. Over and over uninformed lies. The Pilots didn't give up anything. In fact they gained.

But then again you were trying to go to Air Muldavia.........

Hey where you been?? I knew you couldn't resist.

Not all of us want to settle down in Dayton as a mid level underperforming head hunter for a crappy regional airline.