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JohnnyDingus 12-20-2014 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Centra (Post 1787586)
Plenty by the Clarion as well. Meijer (midwestern Target), Skyline, Chipotle, McDonalds, BWW, Company7 BBQ, and some others all within walking distance. Hotel also has a cheap restaurant.

Company 7 has the best wings I've ever had. Also there is a waffle
House close by. Late night munchies.

Da40Pilot 12-21-2014 07:37 PM

I'm currently sitting at 1100 hours and flying 75-90 hours a month. Would it be premature to submit my app at this time? Only reason I'm considering it is because someone said earlier they are currently backlogged and filling March classes...

CLT Guy 12-21-2014 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1788052)
I'm currently sitting at 1100 hours and flying 75-90 hours a month. Would it be premature to submit my app at this time? Only reason I'm considering it is because someone said earlier they are currently backlogged and filling March classes...

I would submit it. The current interviews are for late March. It will likely be a couple weeks before you get to an interview from the time you submit it (some guys are sooner, but some delay the interview for a few weeks). Many guys are getting class dates with only 1300 hours.

Da40Pilot 12-21-2014 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1788062)
I would submit it. The current interviews are for late March. It will likely be a couple weeks before you get to an interview from the time you submit it (some guys are sooner, but some delay the interview for a few weeks). Many guys are getting class dates with only 1300 hours.

Thanks for the response. I sent you a PM!

JohnnyDingus 12-21-2014 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1788066)
Quote:


Originally Posted by CLT Guy


I would submit it. The current interviews are for late March. It will likely be a couple weeks before you get to an interview from the time you submit it (some guys are sooner, but some delay the interview for a few weeks). Many guys are getting class dates with only 1300 hours.




Thanks for the response. I sent you a PM!

You can apply if you will meet minimums within three months

FirstClass 12-22-2014 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1787578)
The instructors stay at the Clarion with the Flight Attendant students. There is very little near the Clarion except for Skyline Chili.

The new hire pilots stay at the Fairfield Inn. There are more than 20 restaurants and bars within a very short walk, and the shuttle will take you anywhere else you would need to go.

There is a WalMart across the street, as well as a place to get haircuts and just about anything else you would need. A car is fun to have, but not a necessity for students.

Anywhere to work out over there? Nearest LA Fitness is about 15 miles away in Beavercreek.

CLT Guy 12-22-2014 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1788457)
Anywhere to work out over there? Nearest LA Fitness is about 15 miles away in Beavercreek.

Hotel has a treadmill and an elliptical, but that's about it.

There is a 24 hour fitness place about 1 mile away that has a deal for PSA guys. It is something like $25 for the entire time you are in Dayton (plus a refundable $20 deposit for the keycard). No other contract or fees.

Da40Pilot 12-22-2014 10:28 PM

What is this 12/4 cap and what's the problem with it? Newbie here, not familiar with all the lingo. Thanks!

FirstClass 12-23-2014 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1788460)
There is a 24 hour fitness place about 1 mile away that has a deal for PSA guys. It is something like $25 for the entire time you are in Dayton (plus a refundable $20 deposit for the keycard). No other contract or fees.

Excellent, thanks! Do you recall the name?

CLT Guy 12-23-2014 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1788654)
What is this 12/4 cap and what's the problem with it? Newbie here, not familiar with all the lingo. Thanks!

The regionals are not designed to have "lifers". It is supposed to be a stepping stone to move on to the majors. The parent airlines want to limit the pay increases at the regional level to keep the cost low. Their solution was to cap the yearly raises. With a 12/4 contract, after 4 years as a first officer, you no longer receive a raise until you upgrade to Captain. If you do upgrade to Captain, you no longer receive a pay raise after 12 years.

In the past, the upper part of the seniority list tended to fill up with lifers, which leads to less movement of people at the bottom of the seniority list and increasing costs for the airline. It stagnates, becomes expensive, and hiring new FO's becomes difficult due to long upgrade times.

This 12/4 works fine as long as there is plenty of movement on the seniority list and FO's are able to upgrade in less than 4 years, and then are able to move on to a major in less than 12 years. If the market stagnates again (economic downturn, 9/11 type event, age 65 rule, etc....) it can really hurt the pilot group.

Companies like PSA will have a great deal of movement on the seniority list in the next 5 years. There is the guaranteed hiring by AAG/US that occurs each month, but more importantly there is a great deal of experience coming in the door.

There are people that argue that it is a terrible thing. And to a point, it can be. It does, however, benefit the new hires as it decreases the time on reserve and upgrade times. The trick is to get in, get your time, and get out. Do not stay at a regional more than 10 years.


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