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Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1776831)

Here is a couple of things to consider. These may seem kind of contradictory but its just food for thought.

1.) If it doesn't make it into your PRIA records, you could consider just not listing PSA as a former employer on an application. You were only there a few weeks.

2.) Even if it doesn't make it on to your PRIA records, I suppose its all in how your next employer asks the question. If they simply ask "have you ever failed a checkride" then you can answer no. But if they ask it like "have you ever failed a checkride, dropped out of training, or been terminated or asked to leave a flying job" then you might have to fess up, assuming of course there is something on your record to report.

I don't know what the requirements are for airline employers but my guess is the FAA will want them to report quickly so the information is available to the next employer. But, in the end, if there is nothing on your record to report, I would not report it.

Setting all that aside for a moment, maybe milkman above is correct and you should consider a carrier that flies turboprops.

That is terrible advice, report everything.

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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS (Post 1776824)

If you go to a CRJ course and come back in a timely manner then no it wont be a failure, it will be an interruption. If you don't then it is a failure.

What's a timely matter? 6 months?

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1776829)

If you can't handle a crj you're gonna get your a$$ handed to you in a dash, not very good advice my friend.

Not true at all

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Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1776831)

So..... lie, then go fly a turboprop that is possibly more difficult to fly than a CRJ.

Solid advice.

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1776829)

If you can't handle a crj you're gonna get your a$$ handed to you in a dash, not very good advice my friend.

Yeah turboprops are pretty busy airplanes and the other thing is, do you really have $5k to toss into ring for a one week CRJ course? What is PSA's answer to the question "how many of your previous rejects got to the line after they took that CRJ course you want me to take"? Your best bet is to get a 135 job and try airlines after a year or two. It will be much easier for you then.

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Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1776841)

So..... lie, then go fly a turboprop that is possibly more difficult to fly than a CRJ.

Solid advice.

You mean like a 1900?

With 2 training failures at the beginning of your career, it would be best to figure out what the issue is before you add a 3rd failure…

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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil (Post 1776834)

That is terrible advice, report everything.

Absolutely not. If there is nothing on your record because the employer chose not to report it because they didn't consider it a failure, then there is nothing to report.

I've never failed a Checkride or training event but I know my PRIA records from my last 121job to this one only list training I have received and the dates no details and Definately no notes or sim records of anytype.

You can request your own PRIA records which I would highly recommend doing.
But I also would not encourage being dishonest about anything.

What was your background to fail 2 121 classes?

With all due respect to the OP.... Unless you can figure out where your weaknesses are and correct them (doubtful as this is your second 121 initial bust), you should consider a new line of work.

Again, no disrespect but do you really want to be responsible for the loss of life that may occur from your lack of abilities?

Flying airplanes for a living isn't for everyone.

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