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BoilerUP 12-05-2014 10:06 AM

OP,

Stop wordsmithing.

Bottom line is you need to improve your flying skills if you want a 121 career; how you do so is entirely up to you.

You may not have failed a checkride, but you failed to complete Initial training at not one but two 121 carriers. That will not reflect well on your abilities going forward, nor will refusal to own that reality and show 1. how you have remedied your deficiencies and 2. why the third time will be a charm for you successfully completing not only simulator training, but IOE flying the actual airplane.

Truth be told, if you want a professional flying career at this point you probably need to spend the money for a jet transition course AND first get some serious experience in a piston twin or turboprop.

PCLCREW 12-05-2014 10:06 AM



Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1776864)
BRO,

YOU WASHED OUT OF TRAINING AT TWO AIRLINES. Call it whatever you want.

It's not a checkride failure. I never filled out a 8410. I have a incomplete training record. That's it. Bro.
Maybe it's or attitude and lack of flying skills that are holding you back.

FaceBiter 12-05-2014 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by WannaBeDriver (Post 1776873)
It's not a checkride failure. I never filled out a 8410. I have a incomplete training record. That's it. Bro.

ELOHEL.

Real Talk-

Sack up and take ownership of it, stop trying to weasel out of what is or is not reported.

You failed training. Own it. Take the good advice offered by people on here.

sevenforseven 12-05-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by WannaBeDriver (Post 1776873)
It's not a checkride failure. I never filled out a 8410. I have a incomplete training record. That's it. Bro.

Here's the deal Wannabe...

You WILL have to report that you did not complete two training events and were basically forced to resign in both instances; whether or not that shows up on PRIA, the next airline WILL find it, because they are required by law to get your training records from any and all previous 135/121 and sometimes even 91 operators that you have flown for, depending on who's hiring you.

The correct course of action, without ANY question is to fully disclose that you did not complete training. How you want to spin that is your business, but you MUST disclose it if you don't want to be (further) blackballed by being fired for lying; which you most certainly will be by any 135 or 121 operation that requires a copy of your training records.

Aviation is a very unforgiving business in many aspects, and the best thing you can do for yourself (aside from the obvious) is to operate in complete transparency with your next employer (or PSA if you go back there). Will 2 incomplete training events be a nail in your coffin professionally? Hard to say; depends on the employer. If you do well going forward, that will help to mitigate the impact of those unsat events. If you don't, I agree with others that you should probably do something else.

I can tell you with certainty that being terminated for lying WILL be the final nail in the coffin; so don't do anything that could be construed as such, okay?

I hope that this helps to clarify things for you. I wish you the very best.

WannaBeDriver 12-05-2014 10:14 AM

What will come up on my PRIA?...PRIA is termination, Checrude failures and drug tests. That's it.

I have a interview with Pedimont next week fwiw.

FaceBiter 12-05-2014 10:16 AM

What about list all employment history in the last 10 years? Gonna lie on that one too?

AluminumFoil 12-05-2014 10:17 AM

There is also the FOIA portion of PRIA...this is becoming quite entertaining.

Slim11 12-05-2014 10:17 AM

Sorry to hear about the second washout.

FWIW, one of my classmates at TSA took a CRJ transition course before reporting for EMB-145 training in STL. He told me that was a good decision on his part. But, it was something his flight school offered him since he was an employee.

Unless you return to PSA, and successfully complete the training, you will have a difficult time going forward in Part 121 or 135.

WannaBeDriver 12-05-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by AluminumFoil (Post 1776900)
There is also the FOIA portion of PRIA...

That's part 91 written and checkrides.

FaceBiter 12-05-2014 10:20 AM

So let me get this straight.

You failed training at two 121 airlines and believe you can just apply and interview at a third without telling them anything?


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