This post is full of lies.

1) A pilot without any 121 experience will never upgrade in 3-4 months. 1000 SIC, remember? That will take no less than 13-14 months.

2) He's not eligible for CQFO.

3) Pay rates at TSA are better on FO and CA side.

1) He specifically mentioned all that stuff "If he already had the mins to upgrade."

2) If he's not eligible for CQFO there is no advantage in going to TSA. Our SAP would make his experience at PSA most likely more enjoyable than TSA.

3) The rates are identical to one another.....Unless he makes it past year 4 as an FO or 12 as CA.

Reading Comprehension
 

CB,

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Ha ha I'll nominate you tool of the year.

I thought it was kind of funny.

CB's post came off a little douchey so he deserved it :D

The person who revived the post gave his credentials. He had no previous 121. Payrates are nearly identical but TSA, qualitatively, is better. I said nothing regarding QOL.

I said in my original post to the necromancer that he should choose based on commute because, right now, either company is a wash. That's a fact.

Not one thing I said in that post was a lie. That's really what's happening right now over here.

There is the question. Here is your answer. How does that help a guy who is new to the 121 world? You essentially told a new 121 pilot that he can upgrade in 3-4 months. That is a lie. You told him that he could got to TSA and flight left and right seat. That is a lie.

I understand you're excited for your airline, but let's try and do our best to help out guys who have zero exposure and might not understand the intricacies of the convoluted mess of regulations. I have several friends in the military who have almost been duped into making poor decisions because they don't understand the difference between 61, 141, 142. Get it together man.

I was simply replying to the title PSA or TSA and missed that he was a new hire. I assumed he was doing the CQFO. You also need a drink

Your SAP is great as long as the company designates the days you need for extra pay. Our contract is better in the sense that ALL pickups out of open time are paid at 150% and is not dependent upon the company designating certain days as premium pay.

Can't say about the PSA stuff in your post, but the TSA stuff was a bunch of crap.

Then please explain. How is your training pay? Does the CQFO pay at captain rates only when you fly in both seats? What about the 401 K matching?

I don't think you understand what SAP is..

The SAP is purely a QoL tool.

The company doesn't have to "designate" anything to make the SAP what it is.

The SAP lets you rearrange your schedule to make it work for you. It is all about quality of life. If you want to have your kids birthday off, but get a line in which you work that day - no problem. Drop that trip and pick something else up. Same thing for vacations.

So, SAP allows you to drop stuff before the schedule is final? Yeah. We have that too.

I never said that you didn't. If you do, and it works for you, then congrats. That is great. It is something that everyone should have.

Ours is outside the limitations of staffing, which is why it is so great. So xmas/thanksgiving/july 4th/mistresses' bday.....doesn't matter you can drop whatever you want.

You are essentially making your own schedule.

The only way you can be denied a trade is if someone already picked it up, it breaks a reg, or you go below 65 hours.

Ya, you definitely read it wrong. He clearly stated if you already had the 121 time.

No the SAP allows you to not just drop trips like every airline does. It allows you to re arrange your entire schedual by yourself. Drop, Add, Swap and more importantly be able to get holidays, kids birthdays, 18 days off, etc... You can do not from your own computer and it's in my opinion the best QOL tool in the airlines.

I didn't read it wrong. The thread was revived by a guy who didn't have any. He made it clear in his post. It was in response of that. It's not my fault people like to hear themselves talk without reading more than 3 posts before they decide to open their decidedly unintelligent mouths.

If you already have the mins to upgrade then you will do so in about 6-7 months.[/COLOR] You will spend about 2 months in training. 1.5-2 months waiting on IOE at home while getting paid. Then come off IOE with a line and upgrade in 3-4 months.

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that is a true statement. The fact that he wasn't talking about a new hire, then this means he read the other post wrong.

We have the same kind of line improvement period. Thought they were talking about the part of your contract where the company designates premium days and if a trip touches it you get the premium pay for the entire trip. We get 150% for all pickups out of open time.

Training pay sucks but these guys will never see the right seat. The company has no interest in hiring guys for the left seat and paying them twice what they have to pay a new hire. Most will have regular upgrades by the end of the year and all when have ugrades early next year. The CQFO is a contractractual tool to protect seniority of those on property so the company cannot hire street captains. Right now new hires are going straight into OE so they are not sitting at home two or three months. So a new hire will make a heck of a lot more at TSA as a CQFO than at PSA because outside of three months in training, they will be paid Captain rates and the guys hired now will be awarded regular upgrades to Captain by mid to late summer.

LOL you need to study the history of this industry. There are carcasses everywhere of FOs who thought they were going to upgrade in a year or two and Captains who thought they would be at mainline in four or five years. Yeah it looks good now, but the worm can take a very wicked turn quickly in this industry. Plus our 70 seat pay rates are much better when the MRJ gets here.

Not to flame, but has the MRJ even flown? It's going 2yrs behind schedule.

That's gonna make it sooo much cooler when we get it!

It will fly in a few weeks.

MRJ info
 

MRJ - Mitsubishi Regional Jet

Outline | MRJ - Mitsubishi Regional Jet

Presently being shipped to Washington state for flight tests.

MRJ flight test fleet
 

FG article, Jan 2015


PICTURES: Mitsubishi releases pictures of MRJ flight test fleet - 1/22/2015 - Flight Global

It's insane to call that plane a regional jet..

SKW has these on order too. Problem is, where and what scope has room for it?

Exactly...

They are 70 and 90 seat jets. Stick a first class in there and they are no different then any other RJ no?

Correct, but isn't scope near or maxed out on large RJ's??? I know a lot can change from now to 2017 but I wouldn't get my hopes up or look forward to flying an MRJ. Besides, there's still crap load of testing, FAA approval, training syllabuses ect... Before I'd start bringing up payrates on an AC that hasn't passed the "sniff" test yet.

So this guy should choose TSA today because he might top out as a captain 12 years from now?

You speculating about the MRJ is that same thing you complained about like one sentence prior. That thing isn't on your property. It may never be, or it might......Does that sound familiar?

Honestly why are you so hostile about this?

No one is acting this way towards you but yet you continue to bristle.

What's your deal?

My understanding is that the only company that currently has anything even close to resembling what we have is Horizon.

A few places have "line improvement." It's not the same.

As far as the other language, well that is scheduled for arbitration here in a month or so.

That language makes your 150% for open time pickup pale in comparison. The company doesn't have to designate anything(although it is an option) for us to get 150%.....WITHOUT losing days off.

This could of course become a moot point if we lose the arbitration.