I don't know when they actually applied to PSA or Mesa. Don't really care either. Most people have out many other apps, or interviewed at a few places when they are hired. The exact time frame is irrelevant. You can have them. I just know they are getting class date offers pretty much right away when they call back after struggling here. They tell us they are going to these places.

We don't know if they are going to pass training and be able to deal with stress. The big difference is we don't hire people with initial 121 check ride failures at other regionals or more than 2 failures of any kind, including primary training. That is a huge red flag which others seem to ignore..

This is absolutely false. I personally know two guys who failed at their first 121 airline's initial training and both have been flying for Envoy for many years. I talk to them on an almost weekly basis. Nice try though.

I'll add to this...good friend did the All ATP training...failed Inst twice, and his multi comm ride...Envoy pilot on the CRJ a few years now. Even the great Envoy hires folks with training failures...you will have to now to replace all that 6 year zero-to-hero flowage.

PSA 1st to hire
 

You guys cracking me up!!!

No, "the exact time frame" is NOT irrelevant!

You come on here, spew PSA hate, and try to mislead potential new hires with ridiculous assertions and then, when called-out, you quickly redirect the conversation and assert that the misinformation YOU presented is "irrelevant".

You wrote: "They (PSA) have no hiring standards. They hire people who literally busted initial 121 checkrides at other carriers the day before." And when confronted with the fact that it is virtually impossible for a pilot fail a checkride one day and get hired by another airline the very next day, you try to tell us that the "exact time frame is irrelevant".

You were very specific in your lie; that you had personal knowledge pilots who "literally" failed a checkride and were then hired by PSA and/or Mesa the very next day. Now that you've been called-out you want us to believe that the "exact time frame is irrelevant".

You're not only a liar, but you're a p1ss-poor liar. You're letting your rage for all-things-PSA to get the best of you.

Yesterday ATC was looking for a Blue Streak, again, on guard and someone said, "try calling for a brown streak and you may get him." Haha brown streak. Wonder what that even means...

Probably along the same lines as "Bendover"

DECs mins
 

I ran a search and couldn't find the hiring mins for street CAs at PSA, sorry if it's been asked before. Also, what be be the Junior base for street CAs?

It appears to be 2500 total, 500 turbine, 1000 sic 121 or 500 pic 121. Then meet the requirements of 121.436 as well.

Junior bases are both Dayton and Knoxville. However in about 6-12 months you should be able to hold Charlotte as it is the larger base. Our November hires are now starting to hold CLT as Captain.

Not as a DEC. getting CLT could be years away. Every upgrading f/o would have priority if they had the seniority.

Today's November hire pilots are holding Charlotte as Captain. Check the last 3 awards. As I said, it's 6-12 months currently.

I think the other guy was referring to direct entry captains rather than Dec new hires.

I don't think you'd see DEC's holding clt for a long time. I'm sure when vacancies come out, senior CA's will transfer to clt, FO's will upgrade. Especially now since we are about to have the "big wave" of 2014 start getting their 1000 hours and eligible to upgrade. They'll have 20-30+/month eligible to upgrade start very soon indefinitely.


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Yes, I would expect a DEC to go to DAY or TYS to start definitely.

2500TT??? That low? They must be desperate. I remember a few years ago when Mesaba and Pinnacle were picking up street CAs (actually pinnacle hired "high time" FOs and upgraded them almost inmediately) they were looking for 3500-4000TT.

So I'm assuming the upgrade time at PSA is FAA mins for the left seat?

Looking for an update over the last three weeks:

Has any pilot been hired by PSA after an interview date of May 11th? If so, was it a street captain? Not if anybody has interviewed since then, but actually been hired. There seems to be a lull in any hiring.

Thanks!

No new hire FO classes until July or August is the latest, it will be street captains only until then.

You forgot to mention PSA has NO flow-through agreement. All they have is a bs guarantee AA interview at a rate of 4/month which will take about...hmm.. +20 years. :eek: (1200active/4/mnth). Now imagine you screw up the interview and get rejected the POSITION at AA after +20 years of waiting!? :eek:

If I was a new hire I'd choose a REGIONAL with a Actual Guarantee Flow-Through agreement (NO interview required) to AA. Envoy (gets 50% of all AA classes, 30/month) or Piedmont (3 per month). Think ahead & be ahead of the curve.

Good luck to you all ! :D

Don't chase flows. Go to a nonwholly own.

How many times are you going to copy and paste this to each thread? To be honest, seeing you and a few others do this, from the outside it looks like Envoy is crumbling more than its on the rise. Nothing like attracting new hires by desperation copy and pasting. Sad.

If I were a new hire I'd be looking over that medical /dental plan...yikes. That's cool your a captain making a measly $62/ hr but what's embarrassing is dealing with the fact that all other regionals really to hate you.

[QUOTE=Realtalk;1903302]If I were a new hire I'd be looking over that medical /dental plan...yikes. That's cool your a captain making a measly $62/ hr but what's embarrassing is dealing with the fact that all other regionals

You must be a sad little man if you are concerned about what other regionals think about you.