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HawkerDriverIAH 06-05-2015 08:27 PM

PSA 1st to hire street Capt. who's next?
 
I have herd rumors that PSA is starting to hire street capt's who will be next?

FaceBiter 06-05-2015 08:34 PM

What!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

Upgradezzzzzzzzz!!!!?????12???

Can you send me the link so I can be a scumbag too?

jdflyer1999 06-05-2015 10:40 PM

How about... Oh it's not even worth commenting

aviatorhi 06-05-2015 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1896864)
What!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

Upgradezzzzzzzzz!!!!?????12???

Can you send me the link so I can be a scumbag too?

Not a DECs fault they don't want to work for poverty money as a regional FO.

Salukipilot4590 06-06-2015 02:38 AM

Thought they were losing the 200s faster than expected.....

diva 06-06-2015 05:13 AM

No one wants to become a street ca just to be bumped by several hundreds of fo's once they get their ours to upgrade. You'll be on the bottom of the barrel. Bad idea.

Avroman 06-06-2015 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1896961)
No one wants to become a street ca just to be bumped by several hundreds of fo's once they get their ours to upgrade. You'll be on the bottom of the barrel. Bad idea.

Ask all the guys that flocked to Mesaba to be Saab street captains how that worked out for them :rolleyes:

DannyBoy138 06-06-2015 05:54 AM

Okay, .... Hey all you guys that flocked to Mesaba to be Saab street captains, ... How'd that work out for ya?

DOGIII 06-06-2015 06:07 AM

PSA 1st to hire street Capt. who's next?
 

Originally Posted by diva (Post 1896961)
No one wants to become a street ca just to be bumped by several hundreds of fo's once they get their ours to upgrade. You'll be on the bottom of the barrel. Bad idea.







It is amazing how perspectives have changed recently. As a new hire years ago, I was just happy getting on as an FO somewhere that had a reasonable expectation of stability and minimal furlough risk by having a few people behind me.

Now, you are arguing that someone should avoid coming to PSA as a captain, with tangible plans of having ~600 pilots behind him. These captains cannot get "bumped" by upgrading FO's unless unlikely furloughs or reductions take place (unless by "bumped" you are referencing change in relative seniority); how is this any more risky than being at the bottom of any list? Is an applicant better off going to a stagnant regional as an FO?

AceyCandler 06-06-2015 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1896988)
It is amazing how perspectives have changed recently. As a new hire years ago, I was just happy getting on as an FO somewhere that had a reasonable expectation of stability and minimal furlough risk by having a few people behind me.

Now, you are arguing that someone should avoid coming to PSA as a captain, with tangible plans of having ~600 pilots behind him. These captains cannot get "bumped" by upgrading FO's unless unlikely furloughs or reductions take place (unless by "bumped" you are referencing relative change in relative seniority); how is this any more risky than being at the bottom of any list? Is an applicant better off going to a stagnant regional as an FO?

You make it sound like PSA will still be an attractive place to come work for that 600th guy who gets hired next year. Guess you're not gonna remind him he'll forever be on the bottom of a saturated pilot group with a substantially weak flow to AA.

Oh yah, and where does PSA plan to vacuum all these pilots from? Sounds like all the guys considering lateral move to PSA have gotten cold feet and decided "it ain't worth it."

DOGIII 06-06-2015 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by AceyCandler (Post 1896993)
You make it sound like PSA is going to be an attractive place to come work for that 600th guy to get hired and forever be on the bottom of a saturated regional with pathetic flow that trickles to America.


Not at all. My point is it will suck on the bottom of any list. Besides, the argument against the flow is ridiculous considering even if the flow doesn't improve (which it should, at-least slightly), there are carriers with no flow whatsoever. So considering your response, I will extend my question- is it better to be on the bottom of a list as an FO, at a stagnant regional, with no career progression of ANY kind?

wiz5422 06-06-2015 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by HawkerDriverIAH (Post 1896859)
I have herd rumors that PSA is starting to hire street capt's who will be next?

TSA was the first, not PSA.

DOGIII 06-06-2015 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1897002)
TSA was the first, not PSA.


Somewhat true. However CQFO is slightly different, both in-terms of flying position and pay.

seafeye 06-06-2015 07:43 AM

Yes CQFO is bad very bad. You wanna talk about being schedulings *****...

CBreezy 06-06-2015 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1897040)
Yes CQFO is bad very bad. You wanna talk about being schedulings *****...

It is appreciably better for those FOs already on the seniority list. Plus, CQFOs at TSA will hold CA positions by winter.

FirstClass 06-06-2015 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by HawkerDriverIAH (Post 1896859)
I have herd rumors that PSA is starting to hire street capt's who will be next?

My guess is Envoy will be next to hire street Captains. There is going to be massive upgrades going on there. According to one of the threads, they are projecting 230 upgrades by December 31st, 2016 (19 months).

Ar Pilot 06-06-2015 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1897050)
It is appreciably better for those FOs already on the seniority list. Plus, CQFOs at TSA will hold CA positions by winter.

Last time i talked with my friend who did the CQFO, he was flying majority captain trips and said he'd hold captain in June. Haven't talked with him since though.

airsense00 06-06-2015 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by DannyBoy138 (Post 1896981)
Okay, .... Hey all you guys that flocked to Mesaba to be Saab street captains, ... How'd that work out for ya?

Well I spent 1.5 years as CA 4th from the bottom till we furloughed. Displaced to FO for 6.5 more years never holding more than 12 days off except for 2 or 3 months. Never re-upgraded and was hammered on the SLI. Spent a total of 6.5 years on reserve with more ready reserve than you can imagine. Lost pay from starting at 43 an hour and leaving at 38 an hour. The experience as CA gave me enough PIC to move on to a major. So yes it totally sucked but I would have never made it to the major without that PIC time. I paid my dues.

skypine27 06-06-2015 11:16 AM

GoJets did it in 2005.

Packrat 06-06-2015 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by airsense00 (Post 1897181)
The experience as CA gave me enough PIC to move on to a major.... I would have never made it to the major without that PIC time. I paid my dues.

And that's the sole benefit to being hired as a street CA.

PilotLife4me 06-06-2015 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1897152)
My guess is Envoy will be next to hire street Captains. There is going to be massive upgrades going on there. According to one of the threads, they are projecting 230 upgrades by December 31st, 2016 (19 months).


This gave me a good laugh! Comments like this make apc worth the occasional gander!

Realtalk 06-06-2015 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1897152)
My guess is Envoy will be next to hire street Captains. There is going to be massive upgrades going on there. According to one of the threads, they are projecting 230 upgrades by December 31st, 2016 (19 months).

I award you no points, we are all dumber now for reading your post. May god have mercy on your soul

Bellanca 06-06-2015 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1897050)
It is appreciably better for those FOs already on the seniority list. Plus, CQFOs at TSA will hold CA positions by winter.

This. And anyone stuck at a stagnant regional that needed to make a move, a lateral move paying ~$44/hour ($60ish as captain) and some PIC time is much more palatable than starting over at $23/hr with only SIC time.

jdflyer1999 06-06-2015 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1897152)
My guess is Envoy will be next to hire street Captains. There is going to be massive upgrades going on there. According to one of the threads, they are projecting 230 upgrades by December 31st, 2016 (19 months).

Seriously. Are you high?

FirstClass 06-06-2015 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 (Post 1897281)
Seriously. Are you high?

Not at the moment. But I do get high on the job.

If you are looking for proof though here is the direct link to the post.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ml#post1896489

It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot.

Good Luck!

WorkingUp 06-06-2015 04:59 PM

Any gouges out there for the DEC interviews? Curious if they are changing it up much from the FO ones.

TalkTurkey 06-06-2015 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1897364)
Not at the moment. But I do get high on the job.

If you are looking for proof though here is the direct link to the post.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ml#post1896489

It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot.

Good Luck!

This is what makes me think that he is RJ Pilot

PeezDog 06-07-2015 05:06 AM

Expressjet! Hahaha! I couldn't resist

AceyCandler 06-07-2015 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by PeezDog (Post 1897586)
Expressjet! Hahaha! I couldn't resist

You may not be all that far off ... in time. EXPRESSJET will be the first regional to have mass retirements in the next 10-15 years. So much white hair around this place.

diva 06-07-2015 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1897152)
My guess is Envoy will be next to hire street Captains. There is going to be massive upgrades going on there. According to one of the threads, they are projecting 230 upgrades by December 31st, 2016 (19 months).

Envoy doesn't need street captains. Most FOs here have the hours to upgrade. Unfortunately PSA pilots don't and now running into problems running their airline & can't handle the flying. Considering no flow (only a chance to interview) at PSA it will be a rough time for all those new hires.

How many CRJ's where PSA parking again ??

Crawl 06-07-2015 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1897416)
This is what makes me think that he is RJ Pilot

My theory is that he is RJ's secret clone, spawned about a year and a half ago. But only recently has he siphoned enough strength from the universe to grant us all luck. Him and RJ exchange thoughtful ideas about aviation during their late-night pillow talk sessions, then come to APC and divulge those insights to the world. We are blessed.

Please grant us thou luck!

Theonemarine 06-07-2015 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1897692)
Envoy doesn't need street captains. Most FOs here have the hours to upgrade. Unfortunately PSA pilots don't and now running into problems running their airline & can't handle the flying. Considering no flow (only a chance to interview) at PSA it will be a rough time for all those new hires.

How many CRJ's where PSA parking again ??

I don't know. "Where" "were" the 200's parking? "We're" not parking any at the moment but maybe soon.

JohnnyDingus 06-07-2015 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Theonemarine (Post 1897745)
I don't know. "Where" "were" the 200's parking? "We're" not parking any at the moment but maybe soon.


Hopefully they park them


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GravyTrain 06-07-2015 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1897692)
Envoy doesn't need street captains. Most FOs here have the hours to upgrade. Unfortunately PSA pilots don't and now running into problems running their airline & can't handle the flying. Considering no flow (only a chance to interview) at PSA it will be a rough time for all those new hires.

How many CRJ's where PSA parking again ??

A chance at interviewing that has a 100% success rate UNLESS you literally tell them you don't want the job and show up in shorts, flip flops and your favorite Hawaiian shirt.

PSA is NOT parking airplanes. This is a blatant lie. We are GETTING more airplanes. What are you, Fox News?

RyanP 06-07-2015 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by WorkingUp (Post 1897379)
Any gouges out there for the DEC interviews? Curious if they are changing it up much from the FO ones.

Gouge? Lol. They have no hiring standards. They hire people who literally busted initial 121 checkrides at other carriers the day before.

Can't wait for that to bite them in the ***.

cartean 06-07-2015 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1897776)
Gouge? Lol. They have no hiring standards. They hire people who literally busted initial 121 checkrides at other carriers the day before.

Can't wait for that to bite them in the ***.


This could not be further from the truth.

RJ Pilot 06-07-2015 11:39 AM

Gouges for DEC. Are you serious?

Scary.

WorkingUp 06-07-2015 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1897792)
Gouges for DEC. Are you serious?

Scary.

All I was asking was if they were changing it from the FO interviews, as it should be. Perhaps using "gouge" was the wrong word. May I ask why you seemed to have taken offense to that question?

FirstClass 06-07-2015 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1897776)
Gouge? Lol. They have no hiring standards. They hire people who literally busted initial 121 checkrides at other carriers the day before.

Can't wait for that to bite them in the ***.

The only Street Captains we are hiring right now are Envoy pilots so I don't know what that says about you. Maybe you are bringing the standard up with your presence?

FirstClass 06-07-2015 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by WorkingUp (Post 1897823)
All I was asking was if they were changing it from the FO interviews, as it should be. Perhaps using "gouge" was the wrong word. May I ask why you seemed to have taken offense to that question?

They are currently laying off pilots due to their downsizing. Also lots of downgrades. Naturally they are a bit upset about any other pilot who might find success elsewhere. Try and ignore them, they are mostly trolls with no true insight into anything or anything positive to add to the conversation. Bunch of debbie downers if you ask me.

Have you had a look at aviationinterview.com? That is probably the best source of information.


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