Originally Posted by twind
(Post 2328468)
Thanks PSA Helps... so you guys are all going totally to the new thread from now on.?? This forum has been a big help to us newbies. THANK YOU
Related,,, from interview time, how soon is typical training start date ps...USE THE NEW THREAD so this one can die. |
I heard a rumor that psa might open a PHL base in 2018...not sure how true that is? Can anyone confirm this?
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Originally Posted by joefly
(Post 2502773)
I heard a rumor that psa might open a PHL base in 2018...not sure how true that is? Can anyone confirm this?
But, don't believe it until an official announcement has been made. |
Originally Posted by joefly
(Post 2502773)
I heard a rumor that psa might open a PHL base in 2018...not sure how true that is? Can anyone confirm this?
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So you can take this for whatever you want... It’s just my opinion. A few months back I thought the new base was for sure going to be PHL.
Then I heard we were opening a Mx base in ORF... Then I realized we would be doing “at least” 3 originators out of ORF daily starting this spring. My “gut feeling” is starting to do that thing it does... And just recently after hearing our DO say that hub bases are not what we are looking at for now for a few reasons that don’t make a whole lot of sense to me I am truthfully beginning to think that ORF will be the new crew base. They don’t want PSA and Piedmont competing directly for new hires in Philly. Piedmont isn’t going to “win” that battle, especially with our flow increasing. ORF is in about as good a position as it can be to support DCA and PHL ops and is still a short flight to CLT. Just my .02, but I think the writing is on the wall. ORF crew base. |
Any word one when PSA is getting a pay raise to match Endeavor?
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Originally Posted by nkweb
(Post 2503149)
Any word one when PSA is getting a pay raise to match Endeavor?
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2503282)
We are actively negotiating. I would expect something by the summer...
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
(Post 2503316)
Is PSA's contract up? Wondering why PSA mgmt team is willing to negotiate, but Envoy mgmt said "not until hiring suffers." Both are owned by AA, Just wondering what the discrepancy?
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2502840)
So you can take this for whatever you want... It’s just my opinion. A few months back I thought the new base was for sure going to be PHL.
Then I heard we were opening a Mx base in ORF... Then I realized we would be doing “at least” 3 originators out of ORF daily starting this spring. My “gut feeling” is starting to do that thing it does... And just recently after hearing our DO say that hub bases are not what we are looking at for now for a few reasons that don’t make a whole lot of sense to me I am truthfully beginning to think that ORF will be the new crew base. They don’t want PSA and Piedmont competing directly for new hires in Philly. Piedmont isn’t going to “win” that battle, especially with our flow increasing. ORF is in about as good a position as it can be to support DCA and PHL ops and is still a short flight to CLT. Just my .02, but I think the writing is on the wall. ORF crew base. |
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2502840)
So you can take this for whatever you want... It’s just my opinion. A few months back I thought the new base was for sure going to be PHL.
Then I heard we were opening a Mx base in ORF... Then I realized we would be doing “at least” 3 originators out of ORF daily starting this spring. My “gut feeling” is starting to do that thing it does... And just recently after hearing our DO say that hub bases are not what we are looking at for now for a few reasons that don’t make a whole lot of sense to me I am truthfully beginning to think that ORF will be the new crew base. They don’t want PSA and Piedmont competing directly for new hires in Philly. Piedmont isn’t going to “win” that battle, especially with our flow increasing. ORF is in about as good a position as it can be to support DCA and PHL ops and is still a short flight to CLT. Just my .02, but I think the writing is on the wall. ORF crew base. |
Originally Posted by Hardcharger
(Post 2503614)
If what you're saying is true, it'd sure be nice for the same thing to happen in SAV since we're opening a maintenance base there. That'd make it very nice living in Charlie South and able to drive to Savannah instead of commuting to CLT.
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 2503632)
Doing a quick search, it would seem that ORF has several early AM originators making it more likely as a crew base. SAV wouldn't be the first MX station we've had without a co-located crew base.
I know we are just having a discussion, but please don’t let them make ORF into a crew base smh. We don’t need anymore useless outstations. We need hubs. Right now people from Dayton are sitting around not flying. Hubs attract pilots....just sharing my thoughts! |
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2502840)
So you can take this for whatever you want... It’s just my opinion. A few months back I thought the new base was for sure going to be PHL.
Then I heard we were opening a Mx base in ORF... Then I realized we would be doing “at least” 3 originators out of ORF daily starting this spring. My “gut feeling” is starting to do that thing it does... And just recently after hearing our DO say that hub bases are not what we are looking at for now for a few reasons that don’t make a whole lot of sense to me I am truthfully beginning to think that ORF will be the new crew base. They don’t want PSA and Piedmont competing directly for new hires in Philly. Piedmont isn’t going to “win” that battle, especially with our flow increasing. ORF is in about as good a position as it can be to support DCA and PHL ops and is still a short flight to CLT. Just my .02, but I think the writing is on the wall. ORF crew base. The DO really said that? When? |
Originally Posted by Folove
(Post 2504030)
I know we are just having a discussion, but please don’t let them make ORF into a crew base smh. We don’t need anymore useless outstations. We need hubs. Right now people from Dayton are sitting around not flying. Hubs attract pilots....just sharing my thoughts!
Bunch of military guys would love ORF, including this one. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Swakid8
(Post 2504120)
Bunch of military guys would love ORF, including this one.
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Originally Posted by Folove
(Post 2504148)
That doesn’t benefit the entire pilot group...selfish smh.
No airline going to have bases that benefit an entire pilot group to be honest Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Swakid8
(Post 2504164)
No airline going to have bases that benefit an entire pilot group to be honest
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk True. But no airline should open a bunch of outstations making it impossible to commute without two legging it....PHL or ORD would beneficially in the sense that if you are on day 4 let’s say and your airplane breaks down or your DH on AA cancels for whatever reason, you can catch a commute on another airline or AA from one of those cities to just about anywhere in the United States. As oppose to ORF, you’ll be two legging it. Not to mention most but not all of the trips will start with a DH to a hub if we open ORF...just another DAY, CVG waiting to happen. |
Amen, we need commutable bases not redneck outposts
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Originally Posted by Folove
(Post 2504030)
I know we are just having a discussion, but please don’t let them make ORF into a crew base smh. We don’t need anymore useless outstations. We need hubs. Right now people from Dayton are sitting around not flying. Hubs attract pilots....just sharing my thoughts!
Lol, you think ALPA has a say? Go read 26.U in the contract. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 2503632)
Doing a quick search, it would seem that ORF has several early AM originators making it more likely as a crew base. SAV wouldn't be the first MX station we've had without a co-located crew base.
PHL is the logical choice for a new crew base, but I think aircraft parking is a big issue at the hubs (price and space) which makes the outstations look better on paper, I'm guessing. "He's a straight shooter with upper management written all over him" - The Bobs, Office Space |
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 2504558)
Lol, you think ALPA has a say? Go read 26.U in the contract.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No, but maybe influence their decisions. :) Lets be honest, 90% of the pilot group will hate ORF as a crew base...I hope the company knows that |
[QUOTE=WhiteMorpheus;2504753]If only Dayton were a MX base without a crew base, haha.
PHL is the logical choice for a new crew base, but I think aircraft parking is a big issue at the hubs (price and space) which makes the outstations look better on paper, I'm guessing. Envoy opens up all hubs and they seem to have no problem. All of their bases are commutable. Yet here we are being cheap and making ORF a crew base. Why should we be the ones that have to constantly be cheap? |
Originally Posted by Folove
(Post 2504031)
The DO really said that? When?
I think another out station crew base is stupid though, but probably the PSA way. |
Originally Posted by redbaronahp
(Post 2508039)
I know 100% thad Dion said it. I heard it come from his mouth at the December state of the airline in the CLT crew room. He said they want to align MX bases and crew bases as much as possible, and they are seriously considering ORF as the next crew base.
I think another out station crew base is stupid though, but probably the PSA way. Our next base should be a HUB hands down. No one wants to two leg it to an outstation. Envoy is hiring like boondocks partially because of their all hub bases. |
Originally Posted by Folove
(Post 2505055)
No, but maybe influence their decisions. :) Lets be honest, 90% of the pilot group will hate ORF as a crew base...I hope the company knows that
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Originally Posted by Quarryman
(Post 2508259)
Good luck in finding anyone who will want to go there. When it can't be staffed it will be shut down.
I’m not a fan of outstation bases for a different reason than, “I’m not happy about 2-leg commuting to base”. I think opening an outstation right now is short-sighted. Sure we have pilots now. We aren’t worried about attracting pilots with commutable hub bases... But what about a year from now? 2 years from now? Just seems short-sighted to me is all. |
The propaganda is out in full force, APC profile shows PSA having a ORF and SAV crew base. I don't think we officially have those bases unless I missed something.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2508356)
There are several commuters that live near there. Not to mention those who live within an hour or two’s drive. If Whiskey managed to staff their ORF crew base then I see no real reason we wouldn’t be able to.
I’m not a fan of outstation bases for a different reason than, “I’m not happy about 2-leg commuting to base”. I think opening an outstation right now is short-sighted. Sure we have pilots now. We aren’t worried about attracting pilots with commutable hub bases... But what about a year from now? 2 years from now? Just seems short-sighted to me is all. |
Originally Posted by Quarryman
(Post 2508259)
Good luck in finding anyone who will want to go there. When it can't be staffed it will be shut down.
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Originally Posted by joseolay
(Post 2508364)
You can two leg commute it to SAV.
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Originally Posted by joseolay
(Post 2508362)
The propaganda is out in full force, APC profile shows PSA having a ORF and SAV crew base. I don't think we officially have those bases unless I missed something.
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I take blame for the incorrect bases, and it was not intentional. I sent in the request to change some of the items to update them to be correct (total number of airplanes, number of pilots, changes to flow numbers, etc..) and included that there were 2 new maintenance bases opening.
I think they misunderstood and added them as crew bases. I have sent a request in for them to change it already. I would not use that as a reason to believe where the next bases are going to be. I have a good idea, but until it is announced, I am not going to post any rumors on here. |
Originally Posted by PSA Recruiter
(Post 2508475)
I take blame for the incorrect bases, and it was not intentional. I sent in the request to change some of the items to update them to be correct (total number of airplanes, number of pilots, changes to flow numbers, etc..) and included that there were 2 new maintenance bases opening.
I think they misunderstood and added them as crew bases. I have sent a request in for them to change it already. I would not use that as a reason to believe where the next bases are going to be. I have a good idea, but until it is announced, I am not going to post any rumors on here. |
Originally Posted by 272922
(Post 2508469)
If I had to guess, someone is feeding the webmasters some false information. And probably not the company.
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There ya go
Misinformation is really just that easy. Michael 39%
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Originally Posted by BizJet
(Post 2508223)
We're turning into the Skywest of the east in regards to random a$$ bases.
Our next base should be a HUB hands down. No one wants to two leg it to an outstation. Envoy is hiring like boondocks partially because of their all hub bases. THIS!! Envoy hires like crazy because of their bases are commutable. Yet we have to be the cheap ones and open ORF? Smh imagine being forced to upgrade then two legging to reserve in ORF. I hope someone tells this to Dion. |
Originally Posted by Quarryman
(Post 2508259)
Good luck in finding anyone who will want to go there. When it can't be staffed it will be shut down.
LOL...I kinda hopes it opens, then they realized they can’t staff it and then it shuts down so they can realize how bad they are at running an airline. |
ORF makes as much sense as a base than TYS, yet TYS is very senior with absolutely no trouble staffing it at all.
There are small niche markets that make great little bases. There are 40-50 people in each seat that would like to live there, are very happy, and have a great quality of life. TYS is like that. ORF would be as well. That is a great town. Virginia Beach and Newport News close by, and you could easily drive in from Richmond or Elizabeth City, NC. I could easily see people coming to PSA, moving to a place like Virginia Beach, being very happy with a 25 minute drive to work, and enjoying living on the coast. But PHL will be the good, commutable base that people are looking for. |
Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
(Post 2509054)
ORF makes as much sense as a base than TYS, yet TYS is very senior with absolutely no trouble staffing it at all.
There are small niche markets that make great little bases. There are 40-50 people in each seat that would like to live there, are very happy, and have a great quality of life. TYS is like that. ORF would be as well. That is a great town. Virginia Beach and Newport News close by, and you could easily drive in from Richmond or Elizabeth City, NC. I could easily see people coming to PSA, moving to a place like Virginia Beach, being very happy with a 25 minute drive to work, and enjoying living on the coast. But PHL will be the good, commutable base that people are looking for. |
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