Thats not how it works. They'd simply displace pilots if no one bid into it.

That’s facts...filler

RUMOR: I've heard from several sources that the company is thinking about base locking people into DAY since there is TOO much turn over. I can't find the contract section to see if they can even do that. We are insanely fat in CLT.

If that rumor is remotely true they might do that to staff ORF.

That's why there is a bid system in place. Seniority works, but only if you let it work.

Yeah, I agree.

Currently, most NH are being placed into DAY on their first bid. I think the issue is coming up in the subsequent bids where everyone is bidding out of DAY. Since we are having bids almost twice a month I can see the possible issue if hiring drops off.

I know Enovy has some sort of base lock and seat lock in their contract. But I don't that it's ever been enforced. I know there has been talk of base locking LGA guys. But that is as confirmed as the rumor I posted above.

#FakeNews

We will open a base in SJU long before we have base or seat locks.

LOL...CRJ 900 are getting life rafts I heard...

This further proves my point of why we don’t need another outstation base. People bid away from DAY because DAY is filled with crappy schedules, crappy wx and not commutable. That’s why ORF is a horrendous idea...

Bermuda overnights, you heard it here first!

Oh, and base locks aren't necessary to keep any base staffed, even ORF if no one bids it. It'll just go junior.

PHL ??

Somewhere around a year ago.

It's been a sure thing for about that long, anyways...

What is the time frame for new hires from day 1 of stepping on property to completion of IOE (assuming everything goes well on IOE trips)? Any training stages backed up?

I am guessing 12 1/2 weeks


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We are telling people 14 weeks (plus or minus) when you come and interview, as there is a possibility of a 2 week delay. We would rather overestimate in case there is a backup.

The way that training is handling backups is to delay you just before or after systems, but not once IPT's are started (unless it just can't be helped). Once you start the flight portion of training (IPT's - Sims - IOE), we try to not have any delays.

I have no idea if this statement about aligning MX bases and crew bases is true, but it would make tons of sense for CAK to be a base (again).

CAK would provide a sizable draw from three nearby metro areas: Cleveland, Columbus, and Pittsburgh. All have sizable populations and numbers of pilots, each has at least one reputable collegiate flight program nearby, and all three are a two-hour drive or less from CAK. No regional competition in the area (basically just Republic) would come close to what PSA offers its pilots.

But this is probably just wishful thinking on my part...I guess I'll just carry on commuting to CLT...or DCA when I'm forced to upgrade.

I'm hoping I'll get forced into DAY as that's where I'd bid into anyway. But that's at least 6/7 months away as I hardly fly.

If the numbers stay the same I'll be safe for at least another year.

I never understood why people that fly as little as possible, and avoid upgrading until forced, choose this profession.

Everyone is different in their goals?!?

I like flying. But I enjoy my time off and ease of my schedule in regards to commuting.

I'm not looking to rush my butt to sit reserve barely flying and dealing with never being home. Of course I'll like being CA , getting PIC time, and increased pay. But there isn't much incentive. The displacement rules and other small incentives don't mean much to me.

I came back to 121 to get experience for other opportunities outside of 121. So I'll do my time and either go to those choices or find a mainline.

Not that this will help my argument as we all think we're correct.

I hear you....this is not directed at you, but the fact that we are even talking about out stations bases makes me feel like an even bigger rj scum smh. “Make PHL great agajn 2018.”

Maybe because until recently you didn’t make the same as a reserve captain? When I got hired it was before all the bonuses and I couldn’t wait to upgrade. Now....not so much.

New written test at interview
 

Hello,

I understand there is a new written test for the interviews at PSA. Would appreciate if anyone can shed light on this new test and if it differs much from the old one.

Whilst I am putting a lot of effort to revise and be confident in all subject matters, any help would be greatly appreciated to ensure I am on the track to success.

I would suggest looking at the ATP test bank, and be familiar with instrument flying procedures and rules. Approach plates would be a good thing to review.

Travel cost for interview
 

Does PSA cover travel to interview location? I’m currently in the Army and plan to submit my application as soon as I am 6 months out. My main concern is I’m stationed in Korea and getting out from here so if they to cover tickets for travel will the cover it from Seoul Korea?

They book your flights. You have to cover your hotel and meals. I have a interview coming up in 2 weeks

Nope. Will not fly you from Korea.

But in the past year or so I have heard of the occasional Skype interview for applicants who were in a similar situation. Not saying it'll be offered to the OP, but it has been offered recently...

ask the recruiter in the "ask a recruiter" thread about four spaces down the list currently

PSA wouldn't fly me to the US from Australia, but they did fly me to the mainland from Honolulu...no Skype interviews. At least that was my experience (this week).

I wonder if someone has ever used these airline interview flights as a free way to travel around the US :)

You know - apply everywhere, and set the interview dates to create an itinerary that works for you...

Help advice need it
 

I'm in my last 50 hours as a CFI and I have 3 CJO, ENDEAVOR, PSA, and ENVOY, what I really want is to work for a WO carrier, I know flows are not realistic in the current state of the industry? but I was wondering if you were in my shoes, what Regional will you choose and why? I'll be commuting to any of their bases. so base is not a big factor for me yet, I'm planning on commuting for 6 months (end of my current lease) and then I'll be probably moving to base.

my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,

So any objective advice will be help full.

If you want to go to AA then go to Endeavor, if you want to go to Delta go to either Envoy or PSA depending on which one you live closest to a base.

AA effectively does not hire outside the flow at the wholly owneds, and the same is true of Delta with Endeavor. Flow is irrelevant.

5 non-flow PSA folks started class at AA two weeks ago. It’s not as unheard of as you’d think.

How many leveraged offers at other airlines to get the AA interview?

2 of them I know didn’t leverage any offers.

Good on em! Hopefully that trend continues.

I flew with multiple pilots who mentioned going to AA or knowing someone who was, but said that it wasn't by getting the call without... convincing them. Heck, one of them said they basically gave the cold shoulder at WAI the second they found out who they worked for. Took a Delta offer to hear back from them.

‘Yeah, see it’s games like that that turns off me off about AA. I mentioned in another thread. IF AA want to act like that, then I have no desire to work for a company like that….

That's exactly what happened to my neighbor at the job fair. Now he has a Delta interview in about 3 weeks. He and his wife currently rent a house in CLT and they'd like to stay, that's the main reason he wants to leverage the Delta offer if he gets one.

Incredible. Go work for someone that's interested in you coming there.

Envoy is parking their 145’s - they already have flights scheduled to the desert

Envoy is getting rid of all the E145's by years end and perhaps even as early as October. A few weeks ago, I would have suggested that you skip Envoy, but considering that we are now finally getting paid for long sits, lost days and airport standby at least that is an improvement. As an FO you can expect to be on reserve for 3-4 months as of right now, but that may change. Miami, will have some of the best flying of the bases followed by Dallas just because of the quantity.

https://www.envoyair.com/2022/05/20/envoy-pilots-to-enjoy-better-work-life-balance-and-enhanced-pay-and-benefits/