They are talking about this same thing at C5 shortly. For sure just about right out of IOE if you have 121 time.

This was years ago but I think I payed like 20 bucks for training. I don't even know why anyone is mentioning it. We have way bigger issues than freakin dayton city taxes.

There's probably more cities with their own income tax than you'd think.

List of U.S. Cities That Levy Income Taxes

That is not the case in many Ohio cities. In some cities the ordinance requires you to file two local tax returns but employer only withholds for one city.

In some cases the city you live in will allow a credit of taxes already paid to the work city. In some cities if you live there the rate might be higher than the work city and you owe the difference.

It's coming.

The street captain/not hiring fos was one of the biggest of many mistakes made by PSA in the past year or so.

Good luck.

It was more the not hiring of FO's. Once those gears got stagnant it hasn't ever gotten up and running again. A forward-thinking management team would have paid the short term price of over-staffing by continuing the hiring ball they had rolling in order to ensure long-term success of the airline.

We have what, about 60 or so DEC's? They had no FO's eligible for upgrade and needed to do something to staff the left seat. If we still had FO's coming in the doors like we did before they cut things off then we'd easily be upgrading 20-30 guys every month and the DEC deal would have just meant a few more months for upgrade for most guys plus less reserve since the DEC's are stuck below everyone.

It's the one mistake our management openly admits to. Good ole mom n pop thinking.

I'm glad they can admit to the mistake. In the mean time the chips keep getting stacked on top of that bad mistake. They better do something big and soon to kick start the engine again.

Maybe once endeavor starts with the street captains they will, but by then it will be too late. I don't see an extra 500 a month keeping fo's from leaving for a ca slot elsewhere. Guys I'm flying with have 0 allegiance to this place especially with the value that's been placed on them. An extra 23 grand a year plus direct entry, tough to beat.

Management would be served well by getting in front of this because as soon as/if Endeavor starts hiring street captains, it's over.

Why would Endevour be hiring street captains? Last I heard is that there are still plenty of senior FO's still waiting to upgrade.

I would too.

This has been a painful experience. Far more painful than it should have been.

Nope. Last upgrade went to April 2014 hire. With 85 upgrades every couple months I don't know how it wouldn't happen.

So what's going on over there that would necessitate DEC's? Are there senior FO's bypassing?

Between some of our CRJ200's coming out of the desert and growth in NY, combined with the fact that some senior FO's are bypassing due to CJO's with Delta/ not wanting to commute to NY the captain slots are going very junior.

PSA is sort of heading down the path Endeavor was on in late 2014. Things got so out of hand there with FO's bailing coupled with the complete inability to attract new hires that Delta's hand was forced to make a major move to turn the tide, hence the 20k bonus + FO SSP. Unless someone at AAG starts taking steps now (and it still may be too late at that) then they're going to get to that same crisis point with the wholly owned regionals.

Nothing against those pilots, but the DEC decision was the main cause for the downfall in staffing imo. Turns out we never really needed them, and like said before it put a stop to FO hiring that won't pick up again like it was. They should have done the deferments sooner or not been so aggressive on the immediate start of transfers. A couple months would have given plenty of time for FOs to upgrade and made no need for DECs.

I live 40 minutes from two major airports that serve direct flights to DTW. Plus a couple of freight flights go there in the middle of the night. Otherwise, I would probably choose PSA but I don't think getting to DTW will be too difficult.

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Doesn't matter how "easy" the commute is. It sucks. End of story. Blows.

My commute couldn't be much easier. 10+ flights/day all mainline acft with 2 jump seats 1:30 flight time. I have priority over everyone unless they are a mainline AA pilot.(of which there are no commuters that I know of) It still absolutely sucks the life out of me.

If you live in a PSA base, work at PSA. That is the one and only way I would recommend someone work here.

There's no arguing that commuting sucks. However an extra $23,000 plus the ability to commute during your reserve period makes it suck a lot less.

Even living in base is becoming less of a reason to come to PSA. Any quality of life you gain from not commuting will quickly be taken away by the lack of income, terrible contract, and abuse by crew scheduling.

Totally agree with this. Honestly I did on demand freight for awhile. 5 days a month I could turn my phone off. Other than that, it was night or day get a call and leave in 10 minutes.

Its just my opinion but I think with an easy commute, Endeavor is just a better option given the pay right now. Worst case scenario I drive a few hours to base. Maybe my opinion will change in a year, who knows. Those are just my two cents.

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I thought the same thing with respect to DAY/CVG and DTW while at Comair. When I was displaced out of CVG, I thought it would be reasonable out of DAY to DTW and CVG in a pinch.

The one time I was in a pinch and used CVG, I couldn't get a hotel in DTW (Michigan home football game) and didn't go. Fortunately, I got out of DAY early the following morning.

There were times I couldn't get out of DAY on a flight because of the airplane type (EMB-145) or weather in DTW. I drove both times.

If you have mainline service to DTW from both cities, you should be all right. If it's not mainline service, be careful.

Dont bank of getting DTW also. Some of the END guys may chime in, but I talked to one guy who said it depends on what aircraft you get assigned and other issues, but its a possibility to not get DTW, at least for a few years. I was in the same boat as you.

Doesnt have to do with PSA. But SkyWest DTW bid is open and hardley any takers... (Less then 10 FO's bidding it. They want 56). New hires/jr captain upgrades will be getting DTW for a while.

If you want dtw at endeavor you will be able to hold it.

Not quite as easy as it used to be because of the growth in NYC, but DTW is still easy to hold. If you don't get it right off the bat, you should be able to within one or two vacancies.

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Love how the PSA thread has turned into the Endeavor recruiting thread. Complete with Q&A. LMAO

Edit: We are not even *****ing about PSA anymore. Just working on all our exit plans!!
You know it's bad when the pilot group quits *****ing. It's like the calm before the storm.
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So now I have to choose between maybe a small class (I assume) and easy commute by car, or 20k more and commute to NYC.

How big (small) are the classes for June and July? (at PSA)

It's the usual edd and flow of the regionals. One day you're hot, the next you're not.

I do suspect that eventually PSA / AAG is going to figure out that what they're offering isn't exactly working and realize that they're going to have to compete. I have no idea when that is, but I do think it will happen sometime.

Ya, I was thinking the same thing. Be careful though, I was severly scolded on the 9E board for even insinuating that someone who asked a question consider a carrier other than 9E.

But I'm sure he's all for the "hijacking" as he liked to put it of the PSA thread to wave the 9E flag. Makes me laugh also!

So, does anyone else think that the company just took the SAP away from us? Surely we will grieve it, and we will win. But in the meantime, we lost the ability to SAP this summer. 8+ hour processing time? They might as well send out a memo saying that they were cancelling the SAP instead of wasting my time.

In the past, at least MK would send out an email thanking us for our patience. This time, they didn't even have the courtesy to lie to us.

Every single pilot needs to email the MEC and say this is enough of this crap. These processing times are ridiculous and the issue needs to be fixed. Every one of you should email TR, and then tell your friends to do the same. Let's see how well our new MEC chair can get something done then.

"Bidding on open time during the Schedule Adjustment Period (“SAP”) will be conducted electronically in real time and will be awarded on a first-come, first served basis."

I think they meant TSA time, they are telling people in ATL to show up 3 hours in advance due to wait times

From 9p processed at 430a
From 11p processed at 619a
18 denied's, 0 approvals, 5 processing to date

Glad I went to bed and gave up, I'm sure that was their intent.

Lol, this mec works for the company not the pilots. They prefer cooperation, but we are adversaries.

Got a couple approved within 15 minutes right at the start. Now they are all taking hours and hours and they are all denied. Over 30 denials on mine now. Sheesh. Heard a rumor that they might start running the CA and FO SAPs on a different day to speed up processing times. I don't know if it will really help much. Even if they cut these processing times in half they are still awful. I've still been able to get everything I want/need in the SAP every month since I've been round 1, but this is frustrating.

Going on 3 hours now from time i started this morning, processing.......

got other things to do on computer today so not necessarily wasting my time but......really

SAP is Broken,....... AGAIN!
 

Two swaps.

First took 1 1/2 hours. Second took FIVE hours! In the middle of the night,..... when it shouldn't be all that busy.

Both denied.

Forget SAP, Just call in sick for the days you need off.

The company sells SAP as a benefit to the pilot group, but the truth is, SAP benefits them just as much by allowing pilots to arrange their schedules around the days they want off, therefore reducing the total number of sick calls.

Since the process in place to reduce sick calls is failing then we have no option but to rely on the previous process.

Make sure your wait until less than 12 hours prior to show time.

If i dont get what i need off I'll just bang out sick. *****es.

The current upgrade time for a new hire today is 4+ years.

The current flow for a new hire today is 15+ years.

The current wait to hold a round 1 line for a new hire is more than 18 months in the only commutable base.

Even after you hold a line, the SAP is worthless.

The management is hostile towards pilots, and will threaten you if you try to call in sick or fatigued, or if you refuse an extension.

If you use more than a few sick days a year, you will be written up (you can not use the sick hours that you accrue without being sent a letter of warning).

The recruiters will lie to you.

Your Union will not support you.

(In some cases, our recruiters are also union officials, which shows the level of hypocrisy with both groups)


If you are considering coming to PSA, be aware that you will be stuck on reserve for a LONG time. You will be capped at 4 year pay, and will not upgrade for years. You will never flow to American.