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Old 11-18-2016, 06:29 AM
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So besides all the other factors I'm looking for info on only these:
1. How long on reserve (in the most junior base)
2. How long to upgrade
3. Growth projections in the next 1-2 years
4. Trip quality (% of 1-5 days, how long do you sit around during the day, commutable, average block)

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Old 11-18-2016, 06:48 AM
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So besides all the other factors I'm looking for info on only these:
1. How long on reserve (in the most junior base)
2. How long to upgrade
3. Growth projections in the next 1-2 years
4. Trip quality (% of 1-5 days, how long do you sit around during the day, commutable, average block)

Thanks!
1. Almost no reserve in DAY or CVG
2. Probably about 2 years
3. Still slated to get 35 additional 700's from Envoy, rumored to get additional 12 options for 900's, probably contingent on staffing
4. Mostly 4 day trips, most trips have minimal sits but there are definitely some out there with 3-4 hour sits. Those are in the minority though. Commutability all depends on where you live and where you are based. TYS/DAY/CVG tend to be less commutable since they can have very early show times and late release times.
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:30 AM
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Piedmont:

The last class was all jet too. So likely everyone will be jet from now on. If you get in now before this wave you are set.

Its a good place to work.
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:33 AM
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Both are good options right now. If I lived in PHL area or had an easy 1-leg commute to PHL I'd go with Piedmont. If I were an easy 1-leg commute from a PSA base or lived in a PSA base then I would go there. PSA I think offers better quality of life because of the SAP for lineholders and still has a lot of growth left well into 2018 so you will hold a line quick. Piedmont will help you build relative seniority within the company quicker and you'll possibly upgrade a little quicker. Reserve time at both is not very long. Both will likely be opening another hub base in 2017. Can't go wrong with either, pick the one that works best for you.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:29 AM
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Both are good options right now. If I lived in PHL area or had an easy 1-leg commute to PHL I'd go with Piedmont. If I were an easy 1-leg commute from a PSA base or lived in a PSA base then I would go there. PSA I think offers better quality of life because of the SAP for lineholders and still has a lot of growth left well into 2018 so you will hold a line quick. Piedmont will help you build relative seniority within the company quicker and you'll possibly upgrade a little quicker. Reserve time at both is not very long. Both will likely be opening another hub base in 2017. Can't go wrong with either, pick the one that works best for you.


What are pdt's plan on growth? Aren't they going to retire the dash? How many 145's will they have when it's all said and done?
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:39 AM
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What are pdt's plan on growth? Aren't they going to retire the dash? How many 145's will they have when it's all said and done?
I believe they will retire the Dash by 2018 although I admittedly don't know for sure as I obviously don't work there or pay a whole lot of attention to what goes on there. And I'm not sure how many 145s they plan to take delivery of from Envoy. I think right now they are taking on 2 /month? The ultimate plan as I understand it is to have PSA operate the vast majority of AAG's CRJ ops (minus the west coast stuff which will likely be mostly SkyWest), PDT to operate all the 145s, with the possibility of 175s contingent on a couple of factors (although I personally see this as less and less likely as time goes on), and Envoy to operate all of AAG's 175 (again, minus the west coast stuff).
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
I believe they will retire the Dash by 2018 although I admittedly don't know for sure as I obviously don't work there or pay a whole lot of attention to what goes on there. And I'm not sure how many 145s they plan to take delivery of from Envoy. I think right now they are taking on 2 /month? The ultimate plan as I understand it is to have PSA operate the vast majority of AAG's CRJ ops (minus the west coast stuff which will likely be mostly SkyWest), PDT to operate all the 145s, with the possibility of 175s contingent on a couple of factors (although I personally see this as less and less likely as time goes on), and Envoy to operate all of AAG's 175 (again, minus the west coast stuff).


Thanks. And thanks for not mentioning the SAP in your reply.
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Can someone break down the flow between the 2 companies? What are the major differences? Realistic flow projections with the amount of people leaving before the flow hits?

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Sorry for be awful post. iPhones and walking between gates make for crappy posts.
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Has anyone mentioned the SAP yet?
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Has anyone mentioned the SAP yet?


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