"Sky puts his crazy posts here because no one else cares to discuss the deeper significance in aviation, like how it might affect us as human beings and what it is in aviation that makes us what we are. His musings are wry, thoughtful, impassioned, genuine, and topical if not statistically correct. He is prone to exaggeration but it is clear that he is interested in what others have to say, and he cares about the airlines or the image of life they supposedly represent. He's not just a case of sour grapes, because anyone who likes an exchange of alternate views, a discussion of values, an appraisal of the status quo, and has experienced multiple lifestyles deserves an open ear and reasonably commands one. Keep up the good work! (And how about getting back on with Alaska?)"

"Psychobabble is a customarily pejorative term to denote technical jargon that is used outside of its intended purpose in psychology. It implies that the speaker lacks the experience and understanding necessary for proper use of various psychological term(s). Frequent use can expand a clinical word to include less meaningful buzzword meanings. Some psychological buzzwords have come into widespread use in business management training, motivational seminars, self-help and folk psychology. These words may be over-used by lay persons in describing behavioral or emotional difficulties as clinical maladies, when such nomenclature is neither valuable, meaningful, or appropriate." (Source: Wikipedia)

Forgive me. I just couldn't resist it. :rolleyes:

The vast majority of us actually enjoy flying, and realize that the idiots that got into flying just for the sake of looking cool, women, status, etc., are usually the ones that can't fly for sh*t.

No I went into flying as a professional, to earn a good living and retirement. Flying is great, but I can safely say I love spending time with my family more.

I fly to make money NUMBER ONE. The fact that this is a job I enjoy is not a bargaining chip for me....

I can think of things much more fun than sitting in an rj for 3 hrs.

it's just as bad to fly for fun as it is to fly for babes.. in the end it's a job, and it's to earn income, setup for retirement, and pay for your kids college.

I have over 100k in student loans. So now ya know one person.

You're not alone...Search for "Key Loans" on this forum...A while back there was an very scary thread developing about student loans and crushing debt.

-LAFF

That's excessive, no offense. It's also tragic that you have that much in student loans and will struggle to live while you earn FO wages for 2-4 years.

Where did you go to school and does that include ALL living expenses? If so then how much did your actual training cost. If you spent 100K on aviation training then I'd be gathering a few friends and talking to a lawyer.

No offense! If I were you and I know I’m not, I'd not go to the first airline that comes around. Go were you can make a decent living at and airline that has a good future.

I have a friend that was a captain for ATA. He left ATA an angry man. He hated the airlines. For about a year he told anyone who was thinking of being an airline pilot that he was making a big mistake!! He finally relized that he really missed flying. He now is a 737 captain...once again!!!

P.S. He's loven' it!!!

Pooch, where'd ya get the avatar of Skyhigh?

Lets keep in mind boys and girls that the grass is always greener over the septic tank.

The notion of a period of time where no pilots apply out of protest for wages is like one poster said a delusion of granduer. Its also a delusion to think that currently employed line pilots will all take a stand and refuse to fly until wages are brought back to reasonable levels. All of the folks on here that outwardly scream about banding together as a pilot group to wage war against management secretly just vote in these **** poor contracts anyway. Do I think pilot pay is a joke right now? ABSOLUTELY. Am I a line pilot just for the sheer joy of flying? NOT ANYMORE. As much as I abhor management and what they feel is equitable pay for what we do (which is a joke), if I take a stand and try to rise up against the man for better wages and QOL I know most of the rest of the pilot group will leave my cheese twisting in the wind. Sad to say it but you know its true.

<<--Texas Telecom worker and CWA union member. 60k a year, full beni's and a 401k 100% match. You know what. I start my training soon. And I cant wait to give all I have up to fly full time. I cant stand how easy and boring this job is. 8 years, and by the time I make a switch to full time flight I will probably have 13 years in this company. But I would give it all up just to be happy doing something I actually enjoyed. $ or not, nice car or not, I want to be happy when I work. So what if my car isnt brand new and flashy, I get to fly.