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Old 03-18-2017 | 04:45 PM
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I bet theyll buy compass. Make them all AA pilots. Then flow them before all the WO pilots.
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Old 03-18-2017 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by boboseatlle
I'm also interested in possibly going to one of the AA wholly owned. Does anyone live on the West Coast and commute to PDT, PSA, or EVY. If so, can you tell me what it's like and if you think you made the right choice with commuting?


I commute LAX to DFW and have never had to use the commuter policy. They use the A321 with two jumpseats on that route. Only had to sit in the jump twice in a year of commuting.


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Old 03-19-2017 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane
I commute LAX to DFW and have never had to use the commuter policy. They use the A321 with two jumpseats on that route. Only had to sit in the jump twice in a year of commuting.


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Old 03-19-2017 | 05:40 PM
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That's great, after most of the l.a. people have left envoy.
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Old 03-19-2017 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DilsonWic
I bet theyll buy compass. Make them all AA pilots. Then flow them before all the WO pilots.
Wholly owned heads just exploded with anger. How dare you
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Old 03-19-2017 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Wholly owned heads just exploded with anger. How dare you
He was just a troll anyway.
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Old 03-23-2017 | 03:28 PM
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Interviews upcoming with two of the three AA WO's, and another possibly after that. Not really concerned about flow, etc, but would like to know if anyone going through training recently has any comments. Am hearing that some of the classroom instructors like to threaten every day that if the students don't shape up they are going home . . . . doing weight and balance manually, using a wiz wheel again, dispatch duties, 30% flunk out rate and other horror stories. My current regional has a great training program, maybe best to stay put? Just looking for pros and cons and wondering if the AA WO's have grown too fast and training departments haven't kept up?

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Old 03-24-2017 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkman
Interviews upcoming with two of the three AA WO's, and another possibly after that. Not really concerned about flow, etc, but would like to know if anyone going through training recently has any comments. Am hearing that some of the classroom instructors like to threaten every day that if the students don't shape up they are going home . . . . doing weight and balance manually, using a wiz wheel again, dispatch duties, 30% flunk out rate and other horror stories. My current regional has a great training program, maybe best to stay put? Just looking for pros and cons and wondering if the AA WO's have grown too fast and training departments haven't kept up?
PSA's training is great and they won't take new airplanes until they can staff them - so I would say no, growing too fast does not apply here. You do need to be a self starter, apply yourself and take responsibility for your progress. Do that and you'll be fine.

No matter what airline you go to their will always be disconnects/discontinuities between ground and sims and from instructor to instructor and then from IOE capn to IOE capn, roll with the punches, say 'yes sir/maam' and check off those boxes.
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Old 03-24-2017 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkman
Interviews upcoming with two of the three AA WO's, and another possibly after that. Not really concerned about flow, etc, but would like to know if anyone going through training recently has any comments. Am hearing that some of the classroom instructors like to threaten every day that if the students don't shape up they are going home . . . . doing weight and balance manually, using a wiz wheel again, dispatch duties, 30% flunk out rate and other horror stories. My current regional has a great training program, maybe best to stay put? Just looking for pros and cons and wondering if the AA WO's have grown too fast and training departments haven't kept up?
Which AAG airline(s) are you talking about with reference to horror stories? Haven't heard that yet.
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Old 03-24-2017 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
They say at Compass the 175s are locked in until 2020. Only way to bring back those 20 birds would be through court.
Or for Delta to buy Compass. If they want to make it a WO again I think DL and AA would both get what they want. DL would get 175s already staffed, and AA could move the 175s to Envoy.
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