AA WO Flow Differences
04-21-2017, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nkweb
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE JUST ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION??!
Break down the differences in the flows between the WO regionals. Go have these childish debates on Facebook or somewhere else. Seriously!
Break down the differences in the flows between the WO regionals. Go have these childish debates on Facebook or somewhere else. Seriously!
READ Son READ! Someone Posted your answer! Right now Piedmont is probably the fastest time to flow.
Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Piedmont flow will get you to AA the quickest
04-21-2017, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
Totally bro. All these guys at PDT should've gone elsewhere and waited five years to upgrade. Then built PIC time for another couple years and then applied to United or "the other majors".
You do realize that people can come to Piedmont and upgrade as soon as they have 2,500 TT and 1,000 hours 121 time right? And the flow doesn't keep them from going to "United or the other majors", right?
So yea keep waiting for your upgrade while everyone else builds PIC time FAST and applies to "United or the other majors" before they'll even look at your resume before throwing it out
You do realize that people can come to Piedmont and upgrade as soon as they have 2,500 TT and 1,000 hours 121 time right? And the flow doesn't keep them from going to "United or the other majors", right?
So yea keep waiting for your upgrade while everyone else builds PIC time FAST and applies to "United or the other majors" before they'll even look at your resume before throwing it out
04-21-2017, 07:24 AM
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At the risk of sounding like a "cheerleader", any time I jumpseat on Republic, the conversation always turns to our flow. I don't initiate it, the Republic pilots do. And every single time, they say that they wish they had one so that they wouldn't have to jump through all these hoops to get on with a legacy. Take it for what it's worth...
04-21-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
PDT pilots are now getting buoyed into aal off the street outside of the flow. The legacies need pilots.. keep nose clean, fly right and safe. Get some pic time, a college degree, a little volunteering, a few hours a month at your local food bank, soup kitchen is all you need. We all have connections at legacies.. use them. Help a friend's kid learn how to fly or get a mainline pilots kid im worn your company and mentor him..
Another benefit of the flow. Connections at mainline. Its already happening now but in a couple years when retirements go crazy more OTF pilots will get picked up.
04-21-2017, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
If American is his first choice why would that not make him well rounded? What the hell does that even mean?
Most people have a first choice in Majors. Usually has to do with Bases and retirements. American has tons of retirements coming. Hell in just May we have 45 and that number is going to get higher and higher each month. If American is your first choice then the WO's might be the best avenue (unless of course you're a Military Pilot)
Most people have a first choice in Majors. Usually has to do with Bases and retirements. American has tons of retirements coming. Hell in just May we have 45 and that number is going to get higher and higher each month. If American is your first choice then the WO's might be the best avenue (unless of course you're a Military Pilot)
I live near Philly so PDT then AA is my first choice. Maybe United out of Newark would be my number two pick.
I had to get 121 time somewhere. I need the 1000 hours SIC 121 time to upgrade. Then the PIC 121 time, which is the goal of all of us stuck in the regional quagmire. Once I get s few thousand hours of 121 PIC I might apply somewhere else. Nobody seems to care about the 11 years of single pilot, single engine 135 flying; whatever!! That's where I spent the post 911/2008 meltdown. Which is why I'm not counting on anything but death and taxes.
I'm not sure what people can't understand about a quick upgrade and a flow?!???! But this is what works for me. I'm home when I get build up line with reserve days. I leave the house two hours before I report for work. Whatever PDT or AA has in Philly and I can hold I will fly.
04-21-2017, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Md5drivr
Alright, maybe I'm just being dense regarding AA flows or flows in general.
Getting ready to apply to Envoy. I'm not applying for the flow. I'm applying for the domiciles and the commute. Then industry reputation. Then the pay. Then, I guess, the flow. But I really don't even get the flow?
If I'm chugging along in 4-5 years as a CA with Envoy, keeping my nose clean, etc....why not just apply to DL, AA, UAL etc. once I get competitive.
Again not trying to be dumb, I've read these forums for probably 5 months now and doing my research to pick my regional. I just don't get why the flow matters and why people put so much value on it?
Definitely I see value in a going with a WO though.
Getting ready to apply to Envoy. I'm not applying for the flow. I'm applying for the domiciles and the commute. Then industry reputation. Then the pay. Then, I guess, the flow. But I really don't even get the flow?
If I'm chugging along in 4-5 years as a CA with Envoy, keeping my nose clean, etc....why not just apply to DL, AA, UAL etc. once I get competitive.
Again not trying to be dumb, I've read these forums for probably 5 months now and doing my research to pick my regional. I just don't get why the flow matters and why people put so much value on it?
Definitely I see value in a going with a WO though.
04-21-2017, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
You're going to Envoy for domicile and commute? Wait what? If those are your priorities I'd head over to the Envoy thread. They've got some pretty gnarly reserve rules and from what I've heard some awful commuting schedules....
04-21-2017, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
You're going to Envoy for domicile and commute? Wait what? If those are your priorities I'd head over to the Envoy thread. They've got some pretty gnarly reserve rules and from what I've heard some awful commuting schedules....
Originally Posted by criticalaoa
I'm on reserve and it's not bad at all. I also know the guys in LGA have lines in less than a month
04-21-2017, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Md5drivr
I've been on the Envoy thread for months now. Seems like the best bet for me out of the Florida Panhandle.
Figure I'll be in LGA until I can figure a way to get into DFW......its going to be a two leg no doubt to LGA but I've got plenty of company metal options out of the Panhandle it seems like, plus other airline options.
Figure I'll be in LGA until I can figure a way to get into DFW......its going to be a two leg no doubt to LGA but I've got plenty of company metal options out of the Panhandle it seems like, plus other airline options.
04-21-2017, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Md5drivr
I've been on the Envoy thread for months now. Seems like the best bet for me out of the Florida Panhandle.
Figure I'll be in LGA until I can figure a way to get into DFW......its going to be a two leg no doubt to LGA but I've got plenty of company metal options out of the Panhandle it seems like, plus other airline options.
Figure I'll be in LGA until I can figure a way to get into DFW......its going to be a two leg no doubt to LGA but I've got plenty of company metal options out of the Panhandle it seems like, plus other airline options.
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