Xjt News
 

2/28/
I am pleased to announce that a press release will be issued shortly (within 24hrs) announcing an agreement with Delta Airlines for Expressjet to place 10 EMB145XR's in a capacity purchase agreement effective June 1. The agreement calls for the aircraft to be base at LAX with an extensive network of flying to destinations in Mexico, California and Salt Lake City. This is a wonderful opportunity for XJT to share its outstanding performance with another legacy carrier. More info will be forthcoming with the press release. Congrats to all for making this possible!!! Semak:D

Congrats to you guys at Express Jet. I also heard today that Delta would be announcing more flying for SkyWest as well as flying for Pinnacle this week along with the XJT flying.

Pie for everyone...

I want a bigger slice:D

You know the bases where the additional delta flying will be taking place for SW and Pinnacle? What's your source?

I am not claiming to "know" anything or state anything as fact. I heard this from a friend in the SKW training dept. I was skeptical but the xjt portion seems to be true so we will see.

:) I am very happy to hear this, nobody is pulling for EXPRESSJET as much as me :) Especially with EAGLE bullying us around at Raliegh, CPA's gimme a warm and fuzzy feeling, gaurenteed money baby.

is xjet going to have new domiciles opening for this new "expressjet flag" flying starting in April??

Where have you been? ONT is opening for ExpressJet Airlines. Bid has already been awarded, 125 crews. Sounds like LAX is going to opening up too unless they are gonna be shuffling crews through LAX for Delta. AUS, SAT and RDU are also rumored for ExpressJet Airlines but nothing official yet.

Why did asa loose the flying out of LA?

Obviously not up to speed on xjet news...I knew about the ONT flying starting in Apr..I had just not heard about domiciles..Excuse me for not being xjet up to date - don't work for them - I'd be curious to see if ONT/LAX would be co domiciles...That would suck..

I am going to have a GOOD line in no time at all, I kinda like that every couple of weeks we have been adding bases, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I love Newark

ASA hasn't lost the flying; they'll still see expanded flying with more destinations in the near future. There is so much flying coming down the shoot that it's great everyone's getting a taste.

Congrats XJTr's, I'm pulling for you!

Thanks brotha 'preciate it :)

Too much posting dude. No offense or anything, I swear, just slow down. That monkey face avatar is haunting me. :o

hehe.. congrats on all the upward movement, SAAB! :D We'll be enjoying all the sun on the west coast tho.... although the overages in EWR are pretty sweet. Can't beat 4 hr. in the ballpark! :)


BTW... NWA is right, that monkey is kinda creepy. :p

Didn't ASA just announce closure of the LAX domicile effective June 1st?

The XR is gonna look SWEEEET in the Delta colors. :D

This was the reason behind the closure.

Take care of our (Comair) planes Xjet! we will miss them :( But congrats on the new flights!

Who did they 'steal' the flying from?

...and these are the same kids that 'stand their ground' and complain about Gojet....

Hippocrate comes to mind...

goes to show......regional flying is ALL contract work....as I said earlier.....glad for my friends at Express....I am looking at a 6-7 year upgrade....my fault because I am not starting over to chase an upgrade.....

I just couldnt help but notice the complete hipocracy in immature and most 21-28 year olds who complain about one company taking flying but jump for joy when it is theirs....its mind numbing

were using our own Airplanes, (Emb-145 XR's)

Funny story: nobody cares about what you have to say.

While you do make a good point, I think the big difference is our compensation is higher than ASA's and, more importantly, we are not an non-union alter-ego carrier that was created to sidestep a current contract. I have no idea what the deal is worth or what ASA is getting paid but I doubt our price is low enough to be considered an under-cut. I could be wrong, though.

Someone in another forum made a good point - the 10 aircraft / 2 year (kinda short...) deal that XJT inked with DAL wasn't governed by the CAL CBA - IOW they could have done this for "at cost" just to place those planes. My guess is they wanted to do more (why only 10) but couldn't due to the CBA with CAL re:adjustment of rates etc.

Good news for XJT, but I wouldn't gloat too much. There are still some red flags. But overall, and I mean this sincerely, congrats! Now you can at least breathe a little easier! At least your company is winning RFP's...

what kind of routes will xjt get to fly out of lax, i know the mexico trips but what about the sf bay area cities?

I totally agree. It's good news for us but it's too bad that ASA will suffer because of it.

If your price is lower, you're undercutting. ASA's in the middle of contract negotiations and get undercut by another carrier. Nothing to jump for joy over, in my book.

Let me please qualify this, however. I'm not knocking XJT guys, I've got lots of friends over there hope the company does great. I do find it odd, though, when guys critique one co for getting flying from another company and then jump for joy at the same thing.

But, they're all doing it. What can you do?

OK it might be time to face the cold hard facts here - ExpressJet is just a better run operation than ASA at this point in time. SkyWest is also a very well run operation, very efficient, with good compensation, which is why they are continuing to win RFP's.

I work for a company that is expensive, not only in wages but in overall cost structure, which prevents them from winning these RFP's. Don't be jealous they are building a better mousetrap, that has nothing to do with undercutting.

I think that is taking the concept of "undercutting" a little too far. Yeah theoretically in its simplest form it may be. But we are not talking about Mesa or the likes winning some flying. When we are talking about one of the top end regionals winning flying i think it shows they are simply a better run company.

Let's see if I understand.... if Mesa offers to do some flying for a lower price than its competitors, then it's "undercutting", but if XJT does the exact thing with the Delta flying in LAX then it's not undercutting:confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

By the way, I am in so way saying that "undercutting" is wrong.... it's a free market (well, kind of) and the lowest price wins.
Nobody seems to complain when Walmart undercuts Safeway or Albertsons and we all enjoy lower prices.

I don't want to speak for everyone but I think what they're saying is our contract didn't undercut anyone. Obviously, if the XJT price to DAL is lower than ASA's it's undercutting ASA. However, with Mesa and GoJets and CHQ, their contracts/pay are lower which (among other factors) enables their management to undercut everyone. The XJT pay is higher than ASA's CRJ-200 pay which means XJT management found other ways to make our operation cheaper.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter how we were able to attain a cheaper price than ASA. ASA pilots are still out of some flying and they're fighting a long, uphill battle for their contract - all of which sucks.

xjt's management does not undercut anybody, they are not bottom feeders like many other regionals. they have high standards, just like whiskey and a couple others. their service an operation as a whole is what won them the flying!

So when you lose flying to CHQ, it's because they are undercutting, but when you win it, it's cause of your superior service and operation....:rolleyes:

Lets not kid ourselves, the lowest bidder who can deliver the flying wins.

I think there is some confusion as to the meaning of the word "undercutting". It simply means you are delivering the product or service for a lower price than your competitors. Simple as that. It does not have a negative connotation. Any regional that gets awarded flying for which the lowest bidder wins is, by definition, undercutting the competitors. Nothing wrong with that.

that's been discussed many times over. it's because larry doesn't want to have a situation like comair. where all his eggs are in one basket.

well that's not the case here, I think it has a lot to do with the XR's. Larry chose CHQ because he has wet dreams about eventualluy using their 170's. Lets hope the CAL pilot group doesn't cave

I guess the point i was trying to get across was that Mesa is able to undercut at the expense of its employees and their QOL. XJT can do it simply because they run a better business.

I agree its undercutting, just dont think in a bad way, which is the how it sounds when you put it the way you did.

Well said! In other words, Mesa's crappy management and lack of operational efficiency is made up on the backs of its employees with the sub-par contracts. They work more for less. This is why MAG ALPA needs to lay down the line this September. Enough is enough.

Congrads Xjetr's!!!

So this summer, who do i "make a donation" to get a resume walked in?

Actually NO ONE cares about so called alter ego carriers ......those CA at GoJet are getting hired EVERYWHERE!!! ALPA carriers and anywhere they want to go! Gotta love capitalisim!

My point above...and later echoed by many....it is HILARIOUS when a kid in his first or second regional job with 2000 hours of 121 time thinks his flying is stole by another pilot....shows how stupid most are.....I must say its nice to know what type of compeition is out there when a hiring boom starts....im in like flint :-)