Govt flying job instead of regional??
05-17-2017, 08:12 AM
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Apples to oranges comparison.
Fed employment is relatively secure, but folks getting into airlines now will move up fairly quickly (once you're above 80% seniority you're generally out of the furlough risk zone).
Fed employment will pay decently from day one, but of course will never get anywhere near a quarter million per year.
Also the government generally has philosophical issues with civil servants getting 18 days off/month so you'd better like what you do because you're going to be doing most days of the week.
As everyone mentioned you have to live where the job is (but the SW US includes San Diego and I have navy buddies at CBP who live there).
All in all, it's not a bad gig. But given anticipated rapid career progression in airlines in the mid-term, it kind of pales by comparison.
Also if you don't have a veteran's preference it's going to be harder to get hired by the fed...there's a gazillion ex-mil helo pilots out there who don't qualify for airlines.
Fed employment is relatively secure, but folks getting into airlines now will move up fairly quickly (once you're above 80% seniority you're generally out of the furlough risk zone).
Fed employment will pay decently from day one, but of course will never get anywhere near a quarter million per year.
Also the government generally has philosophical issues with civil servants getting 18 days off/month so you'd better like what you do because you're going to be doing most days of the week.
As everyone mentioned you have to live where the job is (but the SW US includes San Diego and I have navy buddies at CBP who live there).
All in all, it's not a bad gig. But given anticipated rapid career progression in airlines in the mid-term, it kind of pales by comparison.
Also if you don't have a veteran's preference it's going to be harder to get hired by the fed...there's a gazillion ex-mil helo pilots out there who don't qualify for airlines.
05-18-2017, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
BTW, "illegal" is not a noun.
il·le·gal
Definition of illegal
sometimes disparaging + offensive
: a person who enters or lives in a country without the documentation required for legal entry or residence
05-18-2017, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Merriam Webster says it is:
il·le·gal
Definition of illegal
sometimes disparaging + offensive
: a person who enters or lives in a country without the documentation required for legal entry or residence
il·le·gal
Definition of illegal
sometimes disparaging + offensive
: a person who enters or lives in a country without the documentation required for legal entry or residence
Here is what Merrian Webster says: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal
It says it is an adjective.
It defines it as: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)
Not sure where you got your part of speech or definition.
05-18-2017, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Here is what Merrian Webster says: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal
It says it is an adjective.
It defines it as: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)
Not sure where you got your part of speech or definition.
It says it is an adjective.
It defines it as: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)
Not sure where you got your part of speech or definition.
05-18-2017, 03:22 PM
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Oh snap!
Well....I like Yuma. Even in the summer.
I work with a guy that came from the CBP and both flew P-3s and instructed for them in OKC. He echoes many of the problems that you see reiterated in this thread - but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I might find the leadership more than I could handle, but the mission is definitely up my alley.
Here is hoping for a better environment in the future I guess.
Well....I like Yuma. Even in the summer.
I work with a guy that came from the CBP and both flew P-3s and instructed for them in OKC. He echoes many of the problems that you see reiterated in this thread - but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I might find the leadership more than I could handle, but the mission is definitely up my alley.
Here is hoping for a better environment in the future I guess.
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