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PiedmontFlyer 08-03-2017 01:09 PM

You have to do your homework and decide what is best for you. That being said, I think Piedmont has far fewer issues and much more positive environment. Flow, upgrade, health benefits, just to name a few. And yes, we are "real" AA pilots, too....:rolleyes:

Goingupinverted 08-08-2017 06:00 PM

Thanks everyone for your respectful input. I had an interview with Envoy last month and Piedmont today; accepted to both and chose Piedmont! Sure, commuting will suck, but I am hopeful the schedules will get better as more pilots come in. Other than those two negatives I see nothing but positives about Piedmont.
It would be great to go to Envoy and fly out of Miami, but no guranteed I'd get that and plus it seems like it is going to be Way senior. Also, if they closed the base once who is to say they aren't going to close it again?
Thank you again, safe travels and blue skies.

babs 08-09-2017 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Goingupinverted (Post 2406914)
Thanks everyone for your respectful input. I had an interview with Envoy last month and Piedmont today; accepted to both and chose Piedmont! Sure, commuting will suck, but I am hopeful the schedules will get better as more pilots come in. Other than those two negatives I see nothing but positives about Piedmont.
It would be great to go to Envoy and fly out of Miami, but no guranteed I'd get that and plus it seems like it is going to be Way senior. Also, if they closed the base once who is to say they aren't going to close it again?
Thank you again, safe travels and blue skies.

It sounds like a mistake in my opinion. It sounds like you are older and would have no problem getting the 145 in training. Movement is crazy right now at Envoy and MIA would be available rather quickly (a few months at most). Best of luck to you in your decision.

itsmytime 08-09-2017 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 2407180)
It sounds like a mistake in my opinion. It sounds like you are older and would have no problem getting the 145 in training. Movement is crazy right now at Envoy and MIA would be available rather quickly (a few months at most). Best of luck to you in your decision.

Agreed. Choosing a commute when all else is equal makes no sense.

TheRaven 08-09-2017 11:09 AM

Ask yourself where you'd like to be stuck if the industry takes a sudden downturn.....talk to guys that lived through 9/11 and got to experience "the lost decade".....if being based in MIA in that scenario is better than commuting for a decade, that's your answer. Planning solely as a stepping stone saw lots of people who jumped to Comair suddenly unemployed.

PiedmontFlyer 08-09-2017 11:12 AM

Congratulations and welcome! Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions. Jody and the recruiters are great and very helpful.

Otterbox 08-09-2017 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2403798)
I'm curious why not PSA? All 3 WOs are a great choice for someone looking at a regional airline but if you can't get the 145 in MIA, then commuting to CLT or DCA will likely be easier than a commute to PHL.

In a nutshell:

PSA: best QOL of the 3 WOs, worst flow language
Piedmont: best flow language of the 3 WOs, bad schedules and only PHL is commutable
Envoy: bad schedules and good flow right now but it will decrease with time, best bases for commuting and 175 (if that's a consideration of yours)

Of the 2 options you've laid out I would go with Envoy IF you may be able to get the 145 in MIA. If not go with Piedmont.


Mainly because the thread was Envoy vs Piedmont... "Bad" schedules is a relative term, but your assesment of the three is not wrong.

E175 Driver 08-10-2017 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Goingupinverted (Post 2406914)
Thanks everyone for your respectful input. I had an interview with Envoy last month and Piedmont today; accepted to both and chose Piedmont! Sure, commuting will suck, but I am hopeful the schedules will get better as more pilots come in. Other than those two negatives I see nothing but positives about Piedmont.
It would be great to go to Envoy and fly out of Miami, but no guranteed I'd get that and plus it seems like it is going to be Way senior. Also, if they closed the base once who is to say they aren't going to close it again?
Thank you again, safe travels and blue skies.

Bro, we have the best flow, you are an AA pilot from the first day at envoy plus we have the E175.

Whiskey4 08-10-2017 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Goingupinverted (Post 2406914)
Thanks everyone for your respectful input. I had an interview with Envoy last month and Piedmont today; accepted to both and chose Piedmont! Sure, commuting will suck, but I am hopeful the schedules will get better as more pilots come in. Other than those two negatives I see nothing but positives about Piedmont.
It would be great to go to Envoy and fly out of Miami, but no guranteed I'd get that and plus it seems like it is going to be Way senior. Also, if they closed the base once who is to say they aren't going to close it again?
Thank you again, safe travels and blue skies.

Commuting vs. living in base is the difference between two totally different jobs. Best of luck with the commuting. I won't go back to that for anything.

AZFlyer 08-10-2017 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Goingupinverted (Post 2406914)
Thanks everyone for your respectful input. I had an interview with Envoy last month and Piedmont today; accepted to both and chose Piedmont! Sure, commuting will suck, but I am hopeful the schedules will get better as more pilots come in. Other than those two negatives I see nothing but positives about Piedmont.
It would be great to go to Envoy and fly out of Miami, but no guranteed I'd get that and plus it seems like it is going to be Way senior. Also, if they closed the base once who is to say they aren't going to close it again?
Thank you again, safe travels and blue skies.

Welcome to Piedmont. Just curious, did they offer a class date to you? Interested in knowing how far out people are getting class dates at this point.


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