Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Regional (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/)
-   -   Pinnacle Contract (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/10538-pinnacle-contract.html)

higney85 03-12-2007 11:53 AM

I have been hearing the same good news as this thread is saying. Wake was in ops a few days ago (dont remember exactly when) and said negotiations have been night and day compared to just a while ago. He seemed pretty happy about progress. I am really excited about it. I have been able to "live" on first year FO pay but a little more may allow me to "play" and live a little. The only gripe I have heard is that it doesnt look like retro pay will be in full (saw that coming!) but for me its not a huge thing- but for CA's who have been here since the contract became amendable it is a big deal. I also was hearing that we are getting the 15 -900's out of SLC for delta but that wont be announced until comair is all shaked out and we have a SIGNED contract. I love the rumors but realistically a contract would be great to see. We have enough attrition and a shortage that the 15 and a new hub on the other side of the country wouldn't be big deal right now (to me at least). I do haveta say that it seems that the people who have been here a while have been burned by mgmt to the point where they are playing these talks very "hardnosed" which helps everyone on the flying side. I dont regret my decision to come here. Pretty much every CA and FA I have flown with has been really nice and professional and it makes a 4-day a pleasure even when by day 4 all you want is sleep and a real meal. That is the blog of the week for me...:D Its all good this week....

Yzerman 03-12-2007 05:24 PM

:D
I'm even happier now to be starting training in Memphis in a couple weeks.

Space Monkey 03-12-2007 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 132035)
What's MEC stand for? Majority Elected Chairman?

MEC = Master Executive Council..... basically its the top couple of ALPA reps. in our entire company.........

ToiletDuck 03-12-2007 07:10 PM

Just looked at pennicles mins. they must not be hurting as much for pilots as other guys they are still sitting at 200 multi.

4N1flyr 03-12-2007 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 132331)
I have been hearing the same good news as this thread is saying. Wake was in ops a few days ago (dont remember exactly when) and said negotiations have been night and day compared to just a while ago. He seemed pretty happy about progress. I am really excited about it. I have been able to "live" on first year FO pay but a little more may allow me to "play" and live a little. The only gripe I have heard is that it doesnt look like retro pay will be in full (saw that coming!) but for me its not a huge thing- but for CA's who have been here since the contract became amendable it is a big deal. I also was hearing that we are getting the 15 -900's out of SLC for delta but that wont be announced until comair is all shaked out and we have a SIGNED contract. I love the rumors but realistically a contract would be great to see. We have enough attrition and a shortage that the 15 and a new hub on the other side of the country wouldn't be big deal right now (to me at least). I do haveta say that it seems that the people who have been here a while have been burned by mgmt to the point where they are playing these talks very "hardnosed" which helps everyone on the flying side. I dont regret my decision to come here. Pretty much every CA and FA I have flown with has been really nice and professional and it makes a 4-day a pleasure even when by day 4 all you want is sleep and a real meal. That is the blog of the week for me...:D Its all good this week....

Wait a minute... is he allowed to say that? I thought these forums were only for complaining about the regional life

I think that's the best post i've read since i've been on here (I was lurking before my measly 20 posts)

Space Monkey 03-13-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 132569)
Just looked at pennicles mins. they must not be hurting as much for pilots as other guys they are still sitting at 200 multi.

Or the website hasnt been updated..... rest assure if you have even 100 multi you could probably get an interview.... hell we hired an academy guy with 170tt not too long ago...:mad: I'd be willing to bet he couldn't have had more than 10 or 15 of multi...

higney85 03-13-2007 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by 4N1flyr (Post 132574)
Wait a minute... is he allowed to say that? I thought these forums were only for complaining about the regional life

I think that's the best post i've read since i've been on here (I was lurking before my measly 20 posts)

Well I will take that as a compliment- thanks.


But on the other note as far as mins and whatnot- its who you know and how much you spent. We do hire the 250-hour ATP guys. The interviewing off the street seems to be at 800/100 not the 1000/200 the site says. It really helps to have a little more multi and to have a current pilot send in your resume.

The great thing with pinnacle is that the people are great, the upgrades are quick, and you will be able to have QOL within a few months with the current attrition. I will have a line next month in the most senior base and this is only my 4th month of bidding while being the most junior guy in my new hire class (goes by bday). I would have held a line in the most junior base at my 2nd month of bidding- but I happen to be from/live in the most senior base. Attrition is high here though- we are losing at least one pilot a day (by far more CAs than FOs) and the CA's are heading to majors for the most part. Pinnacle gets knocked sometimes, but after a good contract that appears to be here soon I think that will change a bit.

Silver02ex 03-13-2007 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Space Monkey (Post 132694)
Or the website hasnt been updated..... rest assure if you have even 100 multi you could probably get an interview.... hell we hired an academy guy with 170tt not too long ago...:mad: I'd be willing to bet he couldn't have had more than 10 or 15 of multi...


I heard from a CA in the crew room that he flew with a guy with 1.5 IMC time.

Space Monkey 03-13-2007 11:00 AM

Some how I am not suprised..... I remember one time I was flying with a Captain who told me that the FO he had flown with prior to me said to him (during a rainy night time approach low vis and all) "I don't mean to scare you but this is the first time I've ever flown an ILS in actual IMC."

higney85 03-13-2007 11:30 AM

not to go on a sidebar but... before I was hired at 9E I was instructing at a collegiate university (under 141 rules) and many instructors were against flying in IMC any more than required, and students (while solo) couldnt even go actual with the instr. ticket (insurance was blamed for this). When I got hired I had over 50hrs actual, but most of that was accumulated when I was flying a twin for the multi column. I do believe there is a actual min for the ATP cert- correct me if I am wrong here. On one hand you gotta say "first time for everything" but on the other hand that "first time" should have been in the training environment- either with an instructor towards the end of the IFR ticket, or as a CFII.... just my opinion on that there.. Although when you do fly an approach to actual mins its still an exciting experience for me..... 100 to go..... "minimums" .LIGHTS... CONTINUI-LANDING!


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:30 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands