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09-01-2017, 02:37 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
So, was there an MOU? I don't recall seeing anything from ALPA.
You should've received a joint MEC message. In it, it explains that they will publish the MOU and q&a by the end of the week.
09-01-2017, 03:17 PM
#24
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Position: Directly behind the combiner
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
SKW airlines also approved essentially the same thing today.
What choice do they really have? They have zero bargaining power.
I'm surprised SkyWest didn't offer an extra year of longevity credit for pilots who jump from the union-represented subsidiary to the non-union SkyWest.
On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.
Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?
It should lead to some very interesting cockpit discussions. Who gets to pick up the bar tab?
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09-01-2017, 03:21 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,480
Originally Posted by TonyC
You mean the company-funded SkyWest Student Council agreed with The Company?
What choice do they really have? They have zero bargaining power.
I'm surprised SkyWest didn't offer an extra year of longevity credit for pilots who jump from the union-represented subsidiary to the non-union SkyWest.
On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.
Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?
It should lead to some very interesting cockpit discussions. Who gets to pick up the bar tab?
.
What choice do they really have? They have zero bargaining power.
I'm surprised SkyWest didn't offer an extra year of longevity credit for pilots who jump from the union-represented subsidiary to the non-union SkyWest.
On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.
Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?
It should lead to some very interesting cockpit discussions. Who gets to pick up the bar tab?
.
09-01-2017, 03:35 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Directly behind the combiner
Posts: 4,948
Originally Posted by word302
Actually the student council penned this thing that you guys adopted. Otherwise agree with everything you said.
If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.
Brilliant.
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09-01-2017, 03:58 PM
#27
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,480
Originally Posted by TonyC
I don't know who you mean by "you guys" -- it certainly wasn't me.
If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.
Brilliant.
.
If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.
Brilliant.
.
09-01-2017, 04:15 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,662
Originally Posted by TonyC
I don't know who you mean by "you guys" -- it certainly wasn't me.
If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.
Brilliant.
If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.
Brilliant.
09-01-2017, 05:53 PM
#30
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
Originally Posted by TonyC
On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.
Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?
Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?
How does it infringe on seniority when all of them start at the bottom of the seniority list?
If I fly with one of them, it won't affect me one bit. I'll be happy for the guy for not having to start over at first year pay. And I'll still buy the first round.
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