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Old 09-01-2017 | 02:10 PM
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Lol. Ok. For the flow kool-aid?
Sure, at least you'll have something worth taking a swig for.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 02:37 PM
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So, was there an MOU? I don't recall seeing anything from ALPA.

You should've received a joint MEC message. In it, it explains that they will publish the MOU and q&a by the end of the week.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
Sure, at least you'll have something worth taking a swig for.
Well at least it is carrot flavored.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777

SKW airlines also approved essentially the same thing today.

You mean the company-funded SkyWest Student Council agreed with The Company?

What choice do they really have? They have zero bargaining power.

I'm surprised SkyWest didn't offer an extra year of longevity credit for pilots who jump from the union-represented subsidiary to the non-union SkyWest.



On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.

Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?

It should lead to some very interesting cockpit discussions. Who gets to pick up the bar tab?






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Old 09-01-2017 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
You mean the company-funded SkyWest Student Council agreed with The Company?

What choice do they really have? They have zero bargaining power.

I'm surprised SkyWest didn't offer an extra year of longevity credit for pilots who jump from the union-represented subsidiary to the non-union SkyWest.



On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.

Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?

It should lead to some very interesting cockpit discussions. Who gets to pick up the bar tab?






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Actually the student council penned this thing that you guys adopted. Otherwise agree with everything you said.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by word302

Actually the student council penned this thing that you guys adopted. Otherwise agree with everything you said.

I don't know who you mean by "you guys" -- it certainly wasn't me.

If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.

Brilliant.






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Old 09-01-2017 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I don't know who you mean by "you guys" -- it certainly wasn't me.

If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.

Brilliant.





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I don't disagree.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I don't know who you mean by "you guys" -- it certainly wasn't me.

If the Student Council dreamed it up, I'm not surprised. American Airlines introduced the "B" Scale and suffered the revenge of the Killer B's. Now we'll have B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K scales.

Brilliant.
RJ's been on B-C scales for years......
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Old 09-01-2017 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
You mean the company-funded SkyWest Student Council agreed with The Company?

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Did I say anything about the student council? No...
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Old 09-01-2017 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
On the face, this looks like an infringement on seniority. However, since it means pay rate increases (and more dues income) for some pilots, I'm not surprised ALPA supported it.



Nice way to divide the pilots. Why negotiate a pay raise for everyone if you can negotiate a pay raise for just some pilots, right?

How does it infringe on seniority when all of them start at the bottom of the seniority list?

If I fly with one of them, it won't affect me one bit. I'll be happy for the guy for not having to start over at first year pay. And I'll still buy the first round.
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