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Old 09-03-2017, 12:17 PM
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:22 PM
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What makes you say such nonsense? A trade war with China will hit US companies hard and will stifle the demand for air travel.

With the greatly reduced demand for flying, the legacies will be able to absorb retirements with very little to no hiring.
Chinese wouldn't last a second. They would lose control of their people immediately.

That place is like herding cats on a good day.
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SecDef Mattis was not optimistic with his latest remarks.

A war on the Korean peninsula will have worldwide repercussions.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:26 PM
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Chinese wouldn't last a second. They would lose control of their people immediately.

That place is like herding cats on a good day.
Agree for the most part. That is what makes it so dangerous. If the Chinese people start to rise up, what steps will the Chicoms take to quell them and what will they do to lash out at the US, who they will blame as flaming the unrest?
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:32 PM
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Chinese wouldn't last a second. They would lose control of their people immediately.

That place is like herding cats on a good day.
It's not just mainline taking back their flying, all workers across all industries, are taking back their jobs.

The Chinese see the writing on the wall, their entire economy is a fraud. A lot of that labor that went overseas is coming back over the next decade, as robots can do 90% of their jobs for less.

With upcoming geopolitical issues, and economic malaise. I can easily see international travel cut by 75% or more over the next two decades.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:40 PM
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Unless the economy tanks or another 9/11 happens, we should be safe for a while. It will happen eventually, though
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Retirements are huge over the next 20 year (90% of the pilots with the majors.) With the older captains on the regionals and those getting back in (that left after 9/11), that could easily extend another 5-10 years more. Further, there will be growth. As much growth domestically, other countries pilot demand is forecast to go through the roof.

Beyond 25-30 years, the crystal ball goes blank.

Recessions or extension of retirement age temporarily slow things down, but over the long run, will not have an impact.

Of course, a Black Swan event could change things.

Anyone starting into this industry (age 18 going to college or age 22-23 getting on with a regional) should be well into a major's captain seniority by then.

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Even if there was another 9/11, the impact would be nowhere near what the first one was. Really, I don't see any factor that could bring the airlines to its knees, other than a Yellowstone super-volcano eruption type natural disaster.
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The hiring will stop a few hours before the furlough notices go out.
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Old 09-03-2017, 04:38 PM
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Beyond 25-30 years, the crystal ball goes blank.

Hey, where'd you get your crystal ball? The POS one I got get's fuzzy not much beyond a month out!
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