When will hiring stop?
09-02-2017, 08:04 PM
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When will hiring stop?
Hi,
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are, when hiring will be "over the hump", and when hiring will start to slow? When do you see the hiring peak? What kind of flying experience looks good on a resume other than 121/regional?
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are, when hiring will be "over the hump", and when hiring will start to slow? When do you see the hiring peak? What kind of flying experience looks good on a resume other than 121/regional?
09-02-2017, 10:02 PM
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Wha??? 
There is no "hump". What there is is no pilots. All the majors are having their old guys retire and they are sucking the regionals dry because of that.
You're wondering when the demand will be satisfied. (The end of the "hump".) They'll never get there, because there isn't the supply to cover it.
If you meet the minimums and fog a mirror, you can get a job today.
My example: When I was hired at my old shop, IOE typically took one trip, or a trip and a half before you were signed off. Say, twenty-five hours at the high end. I've been told by people in the training department that now it's not unusual for people to take anywhere between 100~150 hours to get signed off. Those individuals would have been let go in the past.
If hiring stops, it'll be because the company folded due to staffing problems.
There is no "hump". What there is is no pilots. All the majors are having their old guys retire and they are sucking the regionals dry because of that.
You're wondering when the demand will be satisfied. (The end of the "hump".) They'll never get there, because there isn't the supply to cover it.
If you meet the minimums and fog a mirror, you can get a job today.
My example: When I was hired at my old shop, IOE typically took one trip, or a trip and a half before you were signed off. Say, twenty-five hours at the high end. I've been told by people in the training department that now it's not unusual for people to take anywhere between 100~150 hours to get signed off. Those individuals would have been let go in the past.
If hiring stops, it'll be because the company folded due to staffing problems.
09-03-2017, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jrav8r
Hi,
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are, when hiring will be "over the hump", and when hiring will start to slow? When do you see the hiring peak? What kind of flying experience looks good on a resume other than 121/regional?
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are, when hiring will be "over the hump", and when hiring will start to slow? When do you see the hiring peak? What kind of flying experience looks good on a resume other than 121/regional?
09-03-2017, 09:47 AM
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I don't think hiring will stop, but it might slow down when anything with less than 76 seats is sent to the desert. But, on the other hand there's probably a lot more aircraft around 100 seats, or so, on the way. So I think "regional", or commuter, hiring will have less total pilots, but, your low cost carrier sort of operations will have more pilots.
09-03-2017, 11:28 AM
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Hiring will stop when the full impact of the looming trade war with China hits home.
If there is any nuclear exchange, forget air travel as the public will be terrified to fly for fear of airborne radioactive contamination. Furloughs and bankruptcies will be wide spread.
If there is any nuclear exchange, forget air travel as the public will be terrified to fly for fear of airborne radioactive contamination. Furloughs and bankruptcies will be wide spread.
09-03-2017, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by KnotSee
Hiring will stop when the full impact of the looming trade war with China hits home.
If there is any nuclear exchange, forget air travel as the public will be terrified to fly for fear of airborne radioactive contamination. Furloughs and bankruptcies will be wide spread.
If there is any nuclear exchange, forget air travel as the public will be terrified to fly for fear of airborne radioactive contamination. Furloughs and bankruptcies will be wide spread.
The hiring will not stop at the airlines before anyone here retires, but the next round of automation has the very real potential of causing deep concessions.
09-03-2017, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The nuclear threat is nonexistent. Second, the trade war will destroy international travel, but will boost domestic flying by quite a bit.
The hiring will not stop at the airlines before anyone here retires, but the next round of automation has the very real potential of causing deep concessions.
The hiring will not stop at the airlines before anyone here retires, but the next round of automation has the very real potential of causing deep concessions.
With the greatly reduced demand for flying, the legacies will be able to absorb retirements with very little to no hiring.
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