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09-18-2017, 07:16 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by kaputt
I am in favor of the 1500hr rule because I think it has vastly helped improve the working conditions at most of the regional airlines, and may ultimately end up in the demise of the model.
However I often wonder how many of those that vehemently defend the 1500hr rule were also the ones that were hired into the right seat of an RJ with 400TT not that many years ago.
However I often wonder how many of those that vehemently defend the 1500hr rule were also the ones that were hired into the right seat of an RJ with 400TT not that many years ago.
09-18-2017, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Instead of 250, i'm betting the new number will be 750.
A senator wrote back saying (essentially) that he is more interested in leveling the playing field, where (my words) a riddle-rat with the same training and certificate shouldn't get a BS hour advantage over fellow pilot who received the same training and FAA certificate.
While I agree with that attitude, I disagree with the 750 number.
Like sniffing out BS and instead of cutting the BS....BS FOR EVERYBODY!!!
A senator wrote back saying (essentially) that he is more interested in leveling the playing field, where (my words) a riddle-rat with the same training and certificate shouldn't get a BS hour advantage over fellow pilot who received the same training and FAA certificate.
While I agree with that attitude, I disagree with the 750 number.
Like sniffing out BS and instead of cutting the BS....BS FOR EVERYBODY!!!
09-18-2017, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kaputt
I am in favor of the 1500hr rule because I think it has vastly helped improve the working conditions at most of the regional airlines, and may ultimately end up in the demise of the model.
However I often wonder how many of those that vehemently defend the 1500hr rule were also the ones that were hired into the right seat of an RJ with 400TT not that many years ago.
However I often wonder how many of those that vehemently defend the 1500hr rule were also the ones that were hired into the right seat of an RJ with 400TT not that many years ago.
10-06-2017, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Five93H
I was one of the first to be hit by that ruling, and am strongly in favor. Oh god forbid one spends a year instructing before hitting a shiny jet. Short term v long term gains, but not everybody can see it like that.
The Type of flying is more important.
I was Hired at a Regional back in the early 2000's with 223 hours after coming out of Riddle. I never made it to Ground School because it was cancelled after they lost a contract. I went a different career path but still fly for Business in a SR22. I am glad I did Financially at the time. I am now in a place I am looking to get back into the airline game.
I can honestly say...I was a good pilot coming out of ERAU, but I am a much better Pilot now flying a company Cirrus SR22 in the real world for a few years. Real weather, Real IFR, Real issues, Real ATC in SoCal and NorCal, all using real Decision making. No the supper easy flying of instructing in the pattern at KPRC or some other school. I think 100 hours of my type of SR22 flying is better than 1000 hours in instructing in the pattern.
How you categorize this in the regs is much more difficult.
But form a Pay perspective 1500 is great for the regional as a whole
10-06-2017, 07:25 PM
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Letter sent. As someone who was forced to be a CFI for another year+ longer than I would otherwise have been, I know I was much better off for the experience that year gave me. As previous poster said, it's not just about the hours, it's about the experience. A more senior, seasoned CFI at my flight school had access to more challenging and varied types of flying than did the junior ones. I got multi-engine time, actual IFR time, night time, and a couple of abnormal scenarios that I would never have seen if I had never had to spend that extra year or two at the flight school.
10-06-2017, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyGuy
I agree. I am in favor of keeping the 1500 hour requirement. But to me it should be more than an hours requirement in my opinion.
The Type of flying is more important.
I was Hired at a Regional back in the early 2000's with 223 hours after coming out of Riddle. I never made it to Ground School because it was cancelled after they lost a contract. I went a different career path but still fly for Business in a SR22. I am glad I did Financially at the time. I am now in a place I am looking to get back into the airline game.
I can honestly say...I was a good pilot coming out of ERAU, but I am a much better Pilot now flying a company Cirrus SR22 in the real world for a few years. Real weather, Real IFR, Real issues, Real ATC in SoCal and NorCal, all using real Decision making. No the supper easy flying of instructing in the pattern at KPRC or some other school. I think 100 hours of my type of SR22 flying is better than 1000 hours in instructing in the pattern.
How you categorize this in the regs is much more difficult.
But form a Pay perspective 1500 is great for the regional as a whole
The Type of flying is more important.
I was Hired at a Regional back in the early 2000's with 223 hours after coming out of Riddle. I never made it to Ground School because it was cancelled after they lost a contract. I went a different career path but still fly for Business in a SR22. I am glad I did Financially at the time. I am now in a place I am looking to get back into the airline game.
I can honestly say...I was a good pilot coming out of ERAU, but I am a much better Pilot now flying a company Cirrus SR22 in the real world for a few years. Real weather, Real IFR, Real issues, Real ATC in SoCal and NorCal, all using real Decision making. No the supper easy flying of instructing in the pattern at KPRC or some other school. I think 100 hours of my type of SR22 flying is better than 1000 hours in instructing in the pattern.
How you categorize this in the regs is much more difficult.
But form a Pay perspective 1500 is great for the regional as a whole
It means something to be an expert enough on something to teach a person from scratch how to be a Private, Instrument, Multi-Engine and Commercial pilot. We were not just flying the pattern for 1000 hours. I was flying IFR, multi-engine, long cross countries, etc. While in the process gaining valuable experience flying the U.S. Airspace System.
So enough with this silly argument on who is better. The fact is that most Regional training centers are meant to get everybody on the same equal wavelength no matter what path you took.
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