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HotMamaPilot 03-22-2007 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 137698)
Good enough. Sounds like you make over 200k/yr. Do you live like a king? I doubt it. You probably sock away as much as you can in anticipation of retirement. I guess you agree that 200k is a livable wage that is achievable by someone on the ball. I started my thread by answering the question about how much I think is decent.

just pulled the tapes and you were quoted as saying anything less than 200k blows

desertdog71 03-22-2007 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 136648)
Less than 200K blows.

I didn't even spend half that this past year. That was while paying cash for my flight training. I have a wife(stays at home), and 2 kids.

mike734 03-22-2007 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 137711)
just pulled the tapes and you were quoted as saying anything less than 200k blows

And I stand by it. What's your point?

mike734 03-22-2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by surfnfly (Post 137736)
You know what di*K heads excuse my quick take..I'm half way through my second year of first year FO pay thanks in part to leavin my first real 121 flying job for greener pastures. I've been surviving and having fun while doing it. It builds character. I'm sick and tired of you numb nuts coming on here and bashing a career you noo longer are a part of. I've spent my summers and many years of side work hammering nails, lugging insulation up and down industrial construction zones, doing demo work on remodel projects, digging ditches, doing tile, doing molding, washing cars, washing dishes, working for "daddy", cold calling sales, delivering pizzas, making pizzas, serving drinks to rich pricks at the four seasons, throwin luggage, dumping lavs on airplanes, cleaning airplanes, coaching kids sports, ferrying total of peice of Sh*T airplanes across the country; crashing one of those peice of Sh*t airplanes,and yes even flying for Mesa! All while goin to college for this supposed dead end miserable career; and you Know what? Nothing beats this job. Sorry I prefer saving my back to pick up my kids and grandkids one day. I come from a long line of blue collar - iron workers, contractors, home framers, miners, fisherman, farmers, truckers, and cement workers. All retired at the top of their game making good money (working 7 days a week of course) - but the one difference between us is I'll have my health when I retire. That's worth the hard work, money spent, and "time" invested to fly an airplane for 20$ an hour for a couple years. I have half month off next month - what will I do? use some of those skills I've picked up along the way to make some extra cash? or maybe I'll head to Cabo to fish for a few days -I don't know yet but at least I have half the month off to do as I please - enjoy that construction zone Skyhigh; if thats what brings your pleasure so be it. You dont see me on contractors forums bashing the proffession or complaining about the next recession in the horizon to bite my paycheck in the ass - And when I spend the other half at work....I'm OK with that...Because I LOVE to fly. And if you want to come on here and bi*h -so be it, your nothing but a bi*ch and you don't belong in aviation .....because there is nothing worse than spending four days with a whiny complaining SACK - and that's all you are. Out.

Spoken like a true twenty something. You know what you'll be doing on those days off in 15 years? Going to Boy scout meetings, Mowing the lawn, Honey do's, and any number of other things adults with responsibilities do. You sound like a true blue collar type who will be very satisfied with the mediocre pay and lifestyle available to todays pilot. I come from the old school. I (and Skyhigh) expected more. We are disappointed. The difference? Skyhigh was smart enough to cut his loss and get on with his life. I am hoping for the best. You? I don't know. You sound like JO's perfect pilot. You even have a crash on your record basically ensuring you will stay a lower pay regional pilot your whole career. But hey, it beats making pizza right?

shamrok 03-22-2007 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by surfnfly (Post 137736)
You know what di*K heads excuse my quick take..I'm half way through my second year of first year FO pay thanks in part to leavin my first real 121 flying job for greener pastures. I've been surviving and having fun while doing it. It builds character. I'm sick and tired of you numb nuts coming on here and bashing a career you noo longer are a part of. I've spent my summers and many years of side work hammering nails, lugging insulation up and down industrial construction zones, doing demo work on remodel projects, digging ditches, doing tile, doing molding, washing cars, washing dishes, working for "daddy", cold calling sales, delivering pizzas, making pizzas, serving drinks to rich pricks at the four seasons, throwin luggage, dumping lavs on airplanes, cleaning airplanes, coaching kids sports, ferrying total of peice of Sh*T airplanes across the country; crashing one of those peice of Sh*t airplanes,and yes even flying for Mesa! All while goin to college for this supposed dead end miserable career; and you Know what? Nothing beats this job. Sorry I prefer saving my back to pick up my kids and grandkids one day. I come from a long line of blue collar - iron workers, contractors, home framers, miners, fisherman, farmers, truckers, and cement workers. All retired at the top of their game making good money (working 7 days a week of course) - but the one difference between us is I'll have my health when I retire. That's worth the hard work, money spent, and "time" invested to fly an airplane for 20$ an hour for a couple years. I have half month off next month - what will I do? use some of those skills I've picked up along the way to make some extra cash? or maybe I'll head to Cabo to fish for a few days -I don't know yet but at least I have half the month off to do as I please - enjoy that construction zone Skyhigh; if thats what brings your pleasure so be it. You dont see me on contractors forums bashing the proffession or complaining about the next recession in the horizon to bite my paycheck in the ass - And when I spend the other half at work....I'm OK with that...Because I LOVE to fly. And if you want to come on here and bi*h -so be it, your nothing but a bi*ch and you don't belong in aviation .....because there is nothing worse than spending four days with a whiny complaining SACK - and that's all you are. Out.

I am with you surfnfly, I come from a bluecollar bloodline and I pretty much swung a hammer for 15 years before becoming a CFII. To many people out there that don take flying for what it is. I entered the flying game late but still made it and will enjoy it until the day I die. It 's not how much you make but what you do with your money. And nowadays most families rely on dual income so I don't see why these guys cant have their wifes do something useful also. Money is not everything. If you do what you love, the money will follow and happiness too.

blastboy 03-22-2007 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 137762)
Spoken like a true twenty something. You know what you'll be doing on those days off in 15 years? Going to Boy scout meetings, Mowing the lawn, Honey do's, and any number of other things adults with responsibilities do. You sound like a true blue collar type who will be very satisfied with the mediocre pay and lifestyle available to todays pilot. I come from the old school. I (and Skyhigh) expected more. We are disappointed. The difference? Skyhigh was smart enough to cut his loss and get on with his life. I am hoping for the best. You? I don't know. You sound like JO's perfect pilot. You even have a crash on your record basically ensuring you will stay a lower pay regional pilot your whole career. But hey, it beats making pizza right?


If you and skyhigh expected more and are sooo disappointed, what the hell are you doing here? Get outta here, pal! You and skyhigh should go to the contractors forum or entrepeneurs (i think I spelled that right) forum. Surfnfly, I give you a smackin' high five for that post!! By the way, that's what life is all about to me: surfing and flying! It sounds to me like skyhigh and his buddy need to go to another forum and talk about ways to make lots of money. Here, I prefer to talk about having lots of fun doing what most of us here are happy doing. But if you have 8 kids and a 10,000 square foot house with a collection of cars and a cirrus parked out front, I guess being a pilot would be a financial drag. So you can't buy more "things" if you're a pilot these days....GET OVER IT! At least your flying and it beats sitting in a cubicle for 8 hours. Would you rather die with more money or knowing that you lived a great life, doing what you loved. Make the best of it and remember, your flying airplanes!! That's fun, right?!?

blastboy 03-22-2007 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by surfnfly (Post 137766)
Hey listen di*khead the crash on my record has done nothing but gotten me raves, pats on the back, job well done from the feds and a job with one of the best regional carriers out there. Lick the dark side of my sack and come at me once you've walked away from engine out at night.

LOL!! Major props on that! LOL! A crash on your record doesn't mean crap! My grandfather was in the AA 727 crash in St. Thomas 20+ years ago. He continued on to the DC-10 after that. I can't believe some of the crap I see on this forum from supposedly experiences pilots. If you have an engine out at night and walk away from that, many pats on the back for that! If I was Mr. United or Delta, I would look up to that as an emergency well handled. Perfect example! My dad got caught in an embeded t-storm on long Island in a V-tail bonanza back in the 70s. All banged up from hail! His employer was very impressed that he managed to get out of the storm, land, park it at the FBO and walk away alive. The plane was written off and totaled. Was he fired? NO! Did it effect his potential to get hired flying 707s, 727s, 737s, 747's, DC-10's and DC-8's? NO!! Surfnfly has nothing to worry about and if he's at the regionals after that accident, he can go wherever he damn well wants to.

mccube5 03-22-2007 08:27 PM

I dont know how the heck this thread got off on such a tangent, but man the emotions are flying. Everyone needs to pop a midol and go to bed.

SkyHigh 03-22-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 137698)
Good enough. Sounds like you make over 200k/yr. Do you live like a king? I doubt it. You probably sock away as much as you can in anticipation of retirement. I guess you agree that 200k is a livable wage that is achievable by someone on the ball. I started my thread by answering the question about how much I think is decent.

In an urban setting it takes at least 150K to fully fund a middle class lifestyle for a family of four. The median home price in the Seattle area is now 440K. I think that everyone needs to aim high to survive.

SkyHigh

87iroc&amullet 03-22-2007 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 137683)
I have Alaska Airlines FO's calling me to help them figure out how they can build homes as well.

soooooooooooooooo.....

Can you help me figure out how I can build homes as well? :D


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