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E175 Driver 10-26-2017 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2455022)
He must be kidding. There is no way in heck that someone could pass upgrade without being able to demonstrate that they can divert.

Unfurtunately Im not.

galaxy flyer 10-26-2017 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 2453752)
I'm no checkairman, but I have been trying to encourage my newer FOs to get involved. Hand them the weather and ask about it, notams, give them the mx can and ask if they see anything. Involve them in decisions about weather, delays etc. I guess I am hoping to "groom" them into being good or better captains when they upgrade.

I'm pretty impressed when I see an FO do any of the above without me encouraging it. I would hope that my peers are doing the same.

Disclaimer: I am no 20 year captain and I am not perfect, but I do feel it is my job/duty to help educate those following my footsteps to the left seat, as the "old timers" at my company did for me to the best of my ability.

Nice, FlyGuy, that’s exactly what captains should be doing. This bit about “does it pay extra” is laziness in action.

GF

AZFlyer 10-26-2017 06:40 PM

We've got a crotchety old captain where I work that really isn't well liked by any of the FOs for a variety of reasons, but just one of the reasons is that the guy insists on keeping the dispatch release hidden over on his side of the cockpit, instead of in the middle within reach of both pilots like every single other pilot here does.

You want to take a peek at the release enroute and double check a notam? Ask for permission. You want to verify some aspect of the landing performance data in preparation for your approach briefing? Ask for permission. Gets old real fast. To top it all off, during our scheduled 26 minute turn-around that we blocked in 5 minutes late for, he'll read the release painfully slow, putting pen marks all over this and that, leaving you with very little time to check the release yourself and finish your departure preparations.

Most of the captains are great. Yet some of them are really great at demonstrating how not to be when I upgrade.

E175 Driver 10-26-2017 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 2455189)
We've got a crotchety old captain where I work that really isn't well liked by any of the FOs for a variety of reasons, but just one of the reasons is that the guy insists on keeping the dispatch release hidden over on his side of the cockpit, instead of in the middle within reach of both pilots like every single other pilot here does.

You want to take a peek at the release enroute and double check a notam? Ask for permission. You want to verify some aspect of the landing performance data in preparation for your approach briefing? Ask for permission. Gets old real fast. To top it all off, during our scheduled 26 minute turn-around that we blocked in 5 minutes late for, he'll read the release painfully slow, putting pen marks all over this and that, leaving you with very little time to check the release yourself and finish your departure preparations.

Most of the captains are great. Yet some of them are really great at demonstrating how not to be when I upgrade.


must be envoy!

Upntheair27 10-26-2017 06:56 PM

No I believe him 💯 percent. I've seen same (at another wholly owned I won't mention) and Captains not knowing definition of ceiling, how to calculate max daily duty wheels up time and how to divert around a thunderstorm. It's getting clowny out there.


Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2455022)
He must be kidding. There is no way in heck that someone could pass upgrade without being able to demonstrate that they can divert.


Duesenflieger 10-26-2017 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Upntheair27 (Post 2455199)
No I believe him �� percent. I've seen same (at another wholly owned I won't mention) and Captains not knowing definition of ceiling, how to calculate max daily duty wheels up time and how to divert around a thunderstorm. It's getting clowny out there.


...That is insane. It's only a matter of time then before the sh!t hits the fan because training departments are growing lax!

havick206 10-27-2017 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2454441)
121.5/243 isn't monitored by satellites any longer due to all the false alarms and never had beacon ID. Don't sweat it. And don't do it again.

Ummmmm 406 and the id number and lat/long it transmits?

Lvlng4Spd 10-27-2017 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 2455189)
We've got a crotchety old captain where I work that really isn't well liked by any of the FOs for a variety of reasons, but just one of the reasons is that the guy insists on keeping the dispatch release hidden over on his side of the cockpit, instead of in the middle within reach of both pilots like every single other pilot here does.

You want to take a peek at the release enroute and double check a notam? Ask for permission. You want to verify some aspect of the landing performance data in preparation for your approach briefing? Ask for permission. Gets old real fast. To top it all off, during our scheduled 26 minute turn-around that we blocked in 5 minutes late for, he'll read the release painfully slow, putting pen marks all over this and that, leaving you with very little time to check the release yourself and finish your departure preparations.

Most of the captains are great. Yet some of them are really great at demonstrating how not to be when I upgrade.

Yes take in the good and bad from all your pairings. You will develop your own professional manner that way. As a CA, my favorite part of the job is sharing what has worked for me and the "why" behind some of what I do or the way I like to do certain things. We are mentors, whether you like it or not, whether you are paid extra or not.

Longleaf7 10-27-2017 05:05 PM

As someone looking to make the career change into the airlines with a regional, as an FO. This thread is troubling. Not because of all the prank you CAs will play on me (I'm well versed in my current job), but because of what you folks are alluding to.

Do you think age has something to do with it?

I don't consider myself the greatest pilot that ever lived. None of my flying skill have ever come easy. I've had to work hard at every step of the way. It seemed like I had to study harder than the other students around me at the time. I reached more learning plateaus than anyone reading this, probably. But I made it. I fly professionally, but I still have to work hard to stay proficient, it seems. Don't get me wrong, I like the hard work. And I'm confident in my abilities. But I fly about 15% of the hours you do right now, most likely. But I'm acutely aware of the responsibilities I've accepted by acting as PIC. So I'm still working hard.

The people I work with are not pilots. But I work closely with them and I see many younger new hires not working out. I really think it's a work ethic thing. Seems like nobody wants to work for something. Not all the younger folks, but calling out most of them as being a bit lazy Is not an unreasonable notion. Is that what you all are saying? I'm a question asker. I want to know what I'm doing. And if I'm not asking the right questions, I want to know about it. If I'm flying with you guys and I'm not measuring up, I need the criticism.


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Longleaf7 10-27-2017 05:11 PM

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