Regionals "out to get you?"
10-24-2017, 10:53 AM
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Regionals "out to get you?"
It seems like I hear or read of so many instances where regional FOs upgrading to CA are failed. Or fail recurrent.
Yet at the majors this doesn't appear to be a huge issue-
Of course it's challenging and intense, as it should be- but it just seems at the regional level there's a sense of "out to get you" unlike the majors.
Maybe I'm wrong (?)
Yet at the majors this doesn't appear to be a huge issue-
Of course it's challenging and intense, as it should be- but it just seems at the regional level there's a sense of "out to get you" unlike the majors.
Maybe I'm wrong (?)
10-24-2017, 11:57 AM
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There is a higher common-denominator for major airline pilots. Most major FO's have previously qualified and served as crew/turbine PIC's.
Regionals are hiring anybody these days... it's one thing to have seat-meat in the right seat, but I'd be really worried if regionals weren't filtering CA upgrades right now!
Regionals are hiring anybody these days... it's one thing to have seat-meat in the right seat, but I'd be really worried if regionals weren't filtering CA upgrades right now!
10-24-2017, 04:27 PM
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With regionals hiring almost anyone now a days. The quality of applicants have kinda taken a dive. At my company their upgrade Fail rate hax skyrocketed, and not for stick and rudder skills, a lot has to do with just how they operate and decision making. A lot of guys are upgrading so fast without actually taking a second to check out how the guy next to him is doing things and how he came to those decisions or asking questions.
10-24-2017, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
With regionals hiring almost anyone now a days. The quality of applicants have kinda taken a dive. At my company their upgrade Fail rate hax skyrocketed, and not for stick and rudder skills, a lot has to do with just how they operate and decision making. A lot of guys are upgrading so fast without actually taking a second to check out how the guy next to him is doing things and how he came to those decisions or asking questions.
I'm pretty impressed when I see an FO do any of the above without me encouraging it. I would hope that my peers are doing the same.
Disclaimer: I am no 20 year captain and I am not perfect, but I do feel it is my job/duty to help educate those following my footsteps to the left seat, as the "old timers" at my company did for me to the best of my ability.
10-24-2017, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
I'm no checkairman, but I have been trying to encourage my newer FOs to get involved. Hand them the weather and ask about it, notams, give them the mx can and ask if they see anything. Involve them in decisions about weather, delays etc. I guess I am hoping to "groom" them into being good or better captains when they upgrade.
I'm pretty impressed when I see an FO do any of the above without me encouraging it. I would hope that my peers are doing the same.
Disclaimer: I am no 20 year captain and I am not perfect, but I do feel it is my job/duty to help educate those following my footsteps to the left seat, as the "old timers" at my company did for me to the best of my ability.
I'm pretty impressed when I see an FO do any of the above without me encouraging it. I would hope that my peers are doing the same.
Disclaimer: I am no 20 year captain and I am not perfect, but I do feel it is my job/duty to help educate those following my footsteps to the left seat, as the "old timers" at my company did for me to the best of my ability.
10-24-2017, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gators
If you are a CA anywhere and do not like the FO looking into the wx, Notams, logbook, etc... you are doing it wrong
10-24-2017, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
I'm no checkairman, but I have been trying to encourage my newer FOs to get involved. Hand them the weather and ask about it, notams, give them the mx can and ask if they see anything. Involve them in decisions about weather, delays etc. I guess I am hoping to "groom" them into being good or better captains when they upgrade.
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