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Old 03-08-2018 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Also I think the washout rates are stronger now mostly due to airlines taking anyone that can breathe as well as guys that are not current.
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Your last sentence is pretty strong. Take this as the second and third hand crap it is...

So, our failure rate has been significantly higher as late. I was talking to a buddy in recruiting and he was telling me that it came down from on high to hire. Simply hire ANYONE who meets the minimum requirements. That means we are seeing a lot of people going through who wouldn't have been hired 2 or 3 years ago.
This is a direct result of the 1500 hour rule.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
This is a direct result of the 1500 hour rule.
So is $60k first year pay
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Old 03-08-2018 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
This is a direct result of the 1500 hour rule.
You’re conveniently forgetting that training departments are putting through a lot more trainees than they were several years ago, so it’s reasonable to assume that there will a greater number of failures. The percentage of failures is probably the same.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
This is a direct result of the 1500 hour rule.
That statement makes absolutely zero sense. You’re trying to say that higher failure rates are linked to higher hiring standards? We are in a shortage. Not due to any rule, but due to massive hiring and attrition at the major airlines.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
That statement makes absolutely zero sense. You’re trying to say that higher failure rates are linked to higher hiring standards? We are in a shortage. Not due to any rule, but due to massive hiring and attrition at the major airlines.
It now takes at least a year, sometimes 2, to get from 250 to 1500 hours. Many pilots are flying VFR most of the time and hardly doing any IFR/approaches. Skills get rusty if they aren't used frequently.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
It now takes at least a year, sometimes 2, to get from 250 to 1500 hours. Many pilots are flying VFR most of the time and hardly doing any IFR/approaches. Skills get rusty if they aren't used frequently.
There have been very few times in history that you could get a 121 job with less than 1500 hours and at very few carriers. How you spend your time-building experience is up to you. Waste it or make it count. That is on the individual, not the rule. There will always be those that do the bare minimum to get by in life. That will never change.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
There have been very few times in history that you could get a 121 job with less than 1500 hours and at very few carriers. How you spend your time-building experience is up to you. Waste it or make it count. That is on the individual, not the rule. There will always be those that do the bare minimum to get by in life. That will never change.
Not everyone is lucky enough to fall into a gig with regular IFR flying. I'd have loved to have flown a light twin in IMC all the time to get 1500 hours but those jobs don't exist anymore.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Not everyone is lucky enough to fall into a gig with regular IFR flying. I'd have loved to have flown a light twin in IMC all the time to get 1500 hours but those jobs don't exist anymore.
I instructed to get my time. I chose to make it valuable.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
It now takes at least a year, sometimes 2, to get from 250 to 1500 hours. Many pilots are flying VFR most of the time and hardly doing any IFR/approaches. Skills get rusty if they aren't used frequently.
There’s a huge difference in an FO that has the ATP vs the low time guys we used to have. Mostly confidence and ability to make a decision.
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Old 03-09-2018 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by StartUp161WanaB
How many sim session do companies typically offer as a standard?
Does differ from company to compnay?
It used to be eight simulator training events that lasted four hours each before the check ride at most places. These days out of necessity they are offering many more than that. Someone on another thread said that one of the regionals but didn’t specify which one was offering 40 simulator training sessions. If someone needs that much time you better pray that the IOE CA doesn’t become incapacitated or things could get nasty.
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