The River Visual Approach
04-09-2007 | 10:12 AM
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Here's a vid of a PC12 taking off and landing at Courchevel:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFzP9CRFdWw
The runway's 550m, or about 1800 feet.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFzP9CRFdWw
The runway's 550m, or about 1800 feet.
04-09-2007 | 01:33 PM
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From: RC-3 Seabee. Skipper of the A21 cutter.
I can't watch the video from where I'm at but I can't wait to see it!! I remember reading an article by an ex-Tyrolean pilot who said that after you reach a 1/2 mile (or something like this) from the runway, there is no "go around" procedure because the Courchevel ski hill is right in front of you. Guys land there with gnarly tailwinds too. Check out some of these photos. The Tyrolean Dash7 I was reffering to is in there.
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Cour...08_Landing.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Courchevel/05.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Cour...Take%20off.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Cour...3_Approach.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Courchevel/11.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Cour...08_Landing.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Courchevel/05.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Cour...Take%20off.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Cour...3_Approach.jpg
http://www.rfcdallas.com/photos/Courchevel/11.jpg
04-09-2007 | 08:09 PM
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I have heard about this approach. One of the craziest in the world. The IGS in LSZG was actually nothing more than a LOC approach with very high mins and very steep. We had a G/S but it was for "reference only" and was 6.67 degrees. Looks like you're going straight down. I met a guy who used to fly Twin Otters in Nepal and there were some bizarre things there too to get tourists in and out of mountainous areas.
04-09-2007 | 08:19 PM
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From: RC-3 Seabee. Skipper of the A21 cutter.
I have heard about this approach. One of the craziest in the world. The IGS in LSZG was actually nothing more than a LOC approach with very high mins and very steep. We had a G/S but it was for "reference only" and was 6.67 degrees. Looks like you're going straight down. I met a guy who used to fly Twin Otters in Nepal and there were some bizarre things there too to get tourists in and out of mountainous areas.
04-10-2007 | 08:20 AM
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The chief at our flight school has a Jepp binder of north Atlantic plates, mainly Greenland approaches from ferrying 172's to Finland. There are some really interesting ones into those places. Tracking inbound to and NDB, turning, then tracking inbound to another NDB, descending the whole time. Looks like a racetrack with two NDB's at opposite ends of the track.
04-10-2007 | 08:52 AM
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Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe the GS angle for the ILS at Aspen in the 146 is close to 7 degrees? And that airplane seated 100 people.
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04-10-2007 | 09:13 AM
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The descent gradient for the LOC/DME approach is 6.59°, but that's a different animal.
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04-10-2007 | 09:38 AM
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Deleted cause I'm retarded...
I would agree, comparing the LOC to an ILS wouldn't be the same.
EDIT-nevermind - that wouldn't make sense! Unless they had their own ILS equip. Not sure what I was thinking there. Must've been an RNAV? Or something.
But it wasn't part of the government chart revision, it was/is their own stuff.
I would agree, comparing the LOC to an ILS wouldn't be the same.
EDIT-nevermind - that wouldn't make sense! Unless they had their own ILS equip. Not sure what I was thinking there. Must've been an RNAV? Or something.
But it wasn't part of the government chart revision, it was/is their own stuff.
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04-10-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Here, I fixed it for you:
I would agree, comparing the LOC to an ILS wouldn't be the same. I am 99% sure my company had it's own ILS approach there.
We've since removed the CO stuff from our charts so I don't have access to it, but I remember it being in the 7 degree range.
I would agree, comparing the LOC to an ILS wouldn't be the same. I am 99% sure my company had it's own ILS approach there.
We've since removed the CO stuff from our charts so I don't have access to it, but I remember it being in the 7 degree range.
It wouldn't have been an ILS approach since there is no Glideslope transmitter on the field.
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