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flydiamond 07-03-2018 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by blindfayth (Post 2627246)
This is still such a hard choice. The Endeavor recruiter told me that they have class dates available as early as August, but that I'd like need to spend somewhat close to a *year* being based in NYC as an FO.

No matter how good the commuter policy is, this is a huge turn off when I can go to RPA and avoid that scenario altogether.

Fake news... review the other thread that has actual dates of most junior reserve pilots and lineholders in other bases. It’s much less than a year. Quoted from there for your convenience:

JULY

Base/Aircraft/DOH Junior Pilot/ DOH Junior Lineholder

ATL/200/Mar18/Dec17
ATL/900/Oct17/May17
DTW/200/Mar18/Dec17
DTW/900/Jan18/Sep17
MSP/900/Jan18/Aug17
NYC/200/NH/Dec17
NYC/900/NH/Sep17

Bear in mind training takes 3 months. So for example, most junior ATL 900 FO is 6 months post IOE.... DTW 900 3.

blindfayth 07-03-2018 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2627268)
Fake news... review the other thread that has actual dates of most junior reserve pilots and lineholders in other bases. It’s much less than a year. Quoted from there for your convenience:

JULY

Base/Aircraft/DOH Junior Pilot/ DOH Junior Lineholder

ATL/200/Mar18/Dec17
ATL/900/Oct17/May17
DTW/200/Mar18/Dec17
DTW/900/Jan18/Sep17
MSP/900/Jan18/Aug17
NYC/200/NH/Dec17
NYC/900/NH/Sep17

Bear in mind training takes 3 months. So for example, most junior ATL 900 FO is 6 months post IOE.... DTW 900 3.

Oh that's much more bearable, then. Not sure why you call it fake news, though. That phrase is getting so old. That's what the recruiter (Zack) told me on the phone today, so /shrug. Not sure why he'd lie. Maybe he just has bad info?

flydiamond 07-03-2018 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by blindfayth (Post 2627273)
Oh that's much more bearable, then. Not sure why you call it fake news, though. That phrase is getting so old. That's what the recruiter (Zack) told me on the phone today, so /shrug. Not sure why he'd lie. Maybe he just has bad info?

Haha. It’s nice to at least hear a regional airline recruiter twist things to sound worse than they actually are. Our CEO says this latest round of hiring is to staff growth that has yet to be finalized, and I personally doubt any of that growth will be in NYC with Skywest bringing their 175s and main line bringing their C series. Anyways I encourage you to checkout the other thread for the captain dates per base as well, since that’s important.

blindfayth 07-04-2018 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by RedBaron36 (Post 2623342)
Was October the earliest class date for EDV?

No, August was the earliest class date quoted to me.

Baradium 07-04-2018 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by dckpck (Post 2627123)
from what i understand they came out of bankruptcy a couple years ago
being owned by the big three. each owning a 25% share

If accurate, that kind of stake isn't enough that any single one of them would be considered an owner (plus where do you come up with the other 25%?)

And it'd still be helping an airline recruit to staff flying for competitors.

blindfayth 07-04-2018 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2624083)
If you can avoid having to commute, I’d choose Republic. It really does make a huuuuuuge difference in QOL. Especially when sitting reserve.

Is that even with factoring in Endeavor's commuter policies? I.e. positive space after first attempt, etc?

flydiamond 07-04-2018 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by blindfayth (Post 2627896)
Is that even with factoring in Endeavor's commuter policies? I.e. positive space after first attempt, etc?

The positive space commuting at endeavor takes a lot of the stress and anxiety out of commuting and allows for easier planning but is still a major qol hit due to the extra time away from home. That said, Endeavor has a ton of commuters into NYC with overall positive job satisfaction, we have a few cool things in addition to the positive space commuting that cater to commuters.

blindfayth 07-04-2018 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2627903)
The positive space commuting at endeavor takes a lot of the stress and anxiety out of commuting and allows for easier planning but is still a major qol hit due to the extra time away from home. That said, Endeavor has a ton of commuters into NYC with overall positive job satisfaction, we have a few cool things in addition to the positive space commuting that cater to commuters.

That's great to hear. I know I'm going to get hosed on class seniority at EDV, though. The first two of my last four are "11". :(

FlyingDawgg 07-04-2018 07:19 PM

Wholly owned isn't really a plus. You're owned by one airline and if crap hits the fan and the major wants to cut ties, well, you know what happens. Look at Comair. Republic has 5 owners (Big three, GE and Embrear). You have five eggs in your basket compared to one. Many of the people at Republic love the QOL since some months they have 19+ days off.
Now, commuting wise Endeavor beats Republic if you want to commute.

To the original poster. Do whatever is best for you.

The Endeavor/Delta DGI doesn't have a good pass rate btw. ;)

Good luck in your career choice.


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2623373)
I think you've got it down to two good choices.

I started at Endeavor a year ago. I'm having a good time at my first 121. The pay is good. Almost everyone here is great. Long call reserve is a nice touch once you can hold it. I like flying the 900.

Another pilot from my neck of the woods started at Republic in the fall, and she's enjoying things there. She flies all over the place, and the E-jet is nice.

The wholly owned thing was a deal breaker for me, but Republic isn't going anywhere. Good luck whichever way you go!


KelvinHelmholtz 07-04-2018 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingDawgg (Post 2627952)
Wholly owned isn't really a plus. You're owned by one airline and if crap hits the fan and the major wants to cut ties, well, you know what happens. Look at Comair. Republic has 5 owners (Big three, GE and Embrear). You have five eggs in your basket compared to one. Many of the people at Republic love the QOL since some months they have 19+ days off.
Now, commuting wise Endeavor beats Republic if you want to commute.

To the original poster. Do whatever is best for you.

The Endeavor/Delta DGI doesn't have a good pass rate btw. ;)

Good luck in your career choice.

The DGI hasn’t even started.


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