25 Years
04-10-2007 | 06:50 AM
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25 Years
Recently people on this forum have asked why I don't throw everything in to re-starting an aviation career? I possibly have as much as 25 years of eligibility left as an airline pilot. The answer isn't as easy as "I am a quitter" or "don't really love flying". I would protest that I am not a quitter, but why complete in a game that is unwinnable?
As I look upon the airline landscape it is obvious to me that industrial climate change is at work. LCC's and Ultra LCC's are permanently gnawing away at the base of the few standing companies that attempt to treat their employees well. Seven years ago it seemed crazy to think of the legacies being brought to their knees but we all have watched as they have. 25 years is plenty of time to see even the kings of cargo and sultan of the southwest fall. In the end everyone will have to sink to the lowest common denominator.
The jobs will always be there and will be even easier to get, but who but the most ardent of aviation disciples would want to take on a flying career in the face of such miserable pay and working conditions? Even now the next generation is primed to become more the working enthusiast and less of a prideful career professional.
25 years is plenty of time to get a flying career off the ground but in the end everyone will be working for Allegiant. It seems to me that the only real winning strategy is to quit playing. Perhaps in 10 years or so when start ups are everywhere offering quick upgrades and 50K per year I will jump back in. Hopefully by then I will be financially independent and pay will be irrelevant. However to place ones total financial needs on an airline career is unwise at best.
I have already survived my career holocaust. It was and is not fun however much better to do it now while I have 25 years of time left to salvage my retirement and lifestyle. In the end I think it might be those who had their careers snuffed out early and moved on while still young enough to recover who will be the real lucky ones.
SkyHigh
As I look upon the airline landscape it is obvious to me that industrial climate change is at work. LCC's and Ultra LCC's are permanently gnawing away at the base of the few standing companies that attempt to treat their employees well. Seven years ago it seemed crazy to think of the legacies being brought to their knees but we all have watched as they have. 25 years is plenty of time to see even the kings of cargo and sultan of the southwest fall. In the end everyone will have to sink to the lowest common denominator.
The jobs will always be there and will be even easier to get, but who but the most ardent of aviation disciples would want to take on a flying career in the face of such miserable pay and working conditions? Even now the next generation is primed to become more the working enthusiast and less of a prideful career professional.
25 years is plenty of time to get a flying career off the ground but in the end everyone will be working for Allegiant. It seems to me that the only real winning strategy is to quit playing. Perhaps in 10 years or so when start ups are everywhere offering quick upgrades and 50K per year I will jump back in. Hopefully by then I will be financially independent and pay will be irrelevant. However to place ones total financial needs on an airline career is unwise at best.
I have already survived my career holocaust. It was and is not fun however much better to do it now while I have 25 years of time left to salvage my retirement and lifestyle. In the end I think it might be those who had their careers snuffed out early and moved on while still young enough to recover who will be the real lucky ones.
SkyHigh
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04-10-2007 | 07:40 AM
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You obviously want back in.. It's 7:50 am in the time zone you are in and thats the first thing on your mind. You aren't as happy with you construction thing as you say you are..You are probably sitting at home bored out of your *** and is just waiting for someone to reply to your post. Just get up off you *** and go get the job you really want dammit
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04-10-2007 | 07:44 AM
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Recently people on this forum have asked why I don't throw everything in to re-starting an aviation career? I possibly have as much as 25 years of eligibility left as an airline pilot. The answer isn't as easy as "I am a quitter" or "don't really love flying". I would protest that I am not a quitter, but why complete in a game that is unwinnable?
As I look upon the airline landscape it is obvious to me that industrial climate change is at work. LCC's and Ultra LCC's are permanently gnawing away at the base of the few standing companies that attempt to treat their employees well. Seven years ago it seemed crazy to think of the legacies being brought to their knees but we all have watched as they have. 25 years is plenty of time to see even the kings of cargo and sultan of the southwest fall. In the end everyone will have to sink to the lowest common denominator.
The jobs will always be there and will be even easier to get, but who but the most ardent of aviation disciples would want to take on a flying career in the face of such miserable pay and working conditions? Even now the next generation is primed to become more the working enthusiast and less of a prideful career professional.
25 years is plenty of time to get a flying career off the ground but in the end everyone will be working for Allegiant. It seems to me that the only real winning strategy is to quit playing. Perhaps in 10 years or so when start ups are everywhere offering quick upgrades and 50K per year I will jump back in. Hopefully by then I will be financially independent and pay will be irrelevant. However to place ones total financial needs on an airline career is unwise at best.
I have already survived my career holocaust. It was and is not fun however much better to do it now while I have 25 years of time left to salvage my retirement and lifestyle. In the end I think it might be those who had their careers snuffed out early and moved on while still young enough to recover who will be the real lucky ones.
SkyHigh
As I look upon the airline landscape it is obvious to me that industrial climate change is at work. LCC's and Ultra LCC's are permanently gnawing away at the base of the few standing companies that attempt to treat their employees well. Seven years ago it seemed crazy to think of the legacies being brought to their knees but we all have watched as they have. 25 years is plenty of time to see even the kings of cargo and sultan of the southwest fall. In the end everyone will have to sink to the lowest common denominator.
The jobs will always be there and will be even easier to get, but who but the most ardent of aviation disciples would want to take on a flying career in the face of such miserable pay and working conditions? Even now the next generation is primed to become more the working enthusiast and less of a prideful career professional.
25 years is plenty of time to get a flying career off the ground but in the end everyone will be working for Allegiant. It seems to me that the only real winning strategy is to quit playing. Perhaps in 10 years or so when start ups are everywhere offering quick upgrades and 50K per year I will jump back in. Hopefully by then I will be financially independent and pay will be irrelevant. However to place ones total financial needs on an airline career is unwise at best.
I have already survived my career holocaust. It was and is not fun however much better to do it now while I have 25 years of time left to salvage my retirement and lifestyle. In the end I think it might be those who had their careers snuffed out early and moved on while still young enough to recover who will be the real lucky ones.
SkyHigh
04-10-2007 | 10:13 AM
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I seem to hear a song in the back ground of your ramblings SkyHigh.
“You’re stuck in Folsom Prison and time keeps dragin’ on. But that plane keeps a flying, on down to San Anton” LOL
Man, give up. For some reason you always seem to find it overwhelmingly necessary to explain yourself.
“You’re stuck in Folsom Prison and time keeps dragin’ on. But that plane keeps a flying, on down to San Anton” LOL
Man, give up. For some reason you always seem to find it overwhelmingly necessary to explain yourself.
04-10-2007 | 11:11 AM
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Unwinnable game? Faulty premise.
ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.”
-- Æsop.
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04-10-2007 | 11:41 AM
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ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.”
-- Æsop.
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04-10-2007 | 11:46 AM
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.”
-- Æsop.
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