Originally Posted by word302

I do, which is why I said I'd like to see something in writing. The problem is there are a huge group of pilots who live in places that would require coming in a day early if they need to have 2 flight options. I also understand their perspective as a commuter. My time at home is gold. Like I said before, what happened to you sucks, but it is also far from a normal scenario. You had 2 major things not working in your favor, MH being in the CS department as this went down, and your chief telling you to drive and you decided not to. I completely understand your decisions, but the system we have works pretty damn well for the majority of our pilots.

Originally Posted by word302

I do, which is why I said I'd like to see something in writing. The problem is there are a huge group of pilots who live in places that would require coming in a day early if they need to have 2 flight options. I also understand their perspective as a commuter. My time at home is gold. Like I said before, what happened to you sucks, but it is also far from a normal scenario. You had 2 major things not working in your favor, MH being in the CS department as this went down, and your chief telling you to drive and you decided not to. At that point it became more than just missing a commute, it became not following the instructions of your chief. I completely understand your decisions, but the system we have works pretty damn well for the majority of our pilots.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

This was my experience with such policies at other airlines, too many restrictions. Typical requirements (some or all)...

- 2-3 Flights
- At least one hour apart
- Last one arrives at least one hour prior to show
- Must show seats in back
- Must be on a partner carrier (so management can verify seats)

Be careful what you ask for. The other downside is if you do miss a commute you WILL be disciplined if you didn't comply with all of that. I preferred the current system, make a *reasonable* effort under the circumstances and call in honest.

Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem

Man o man.. I done trying to explain what happened.. so here is the bullet points

-Hired Oct 2017, made it through training with no issues and well within the footprint.

-Commuted to ORD, LAX then SEA while living in PDX

-Had two sick calls while at SkyWest, one dated in Feb and the next was a week earlier in May, these were legit sick calls that I truly felt that flying a plane wasn’t the right and legal thing to do. How I gauge that is if I bend metal, will I have done explaining to do on my health at the time...

-Mid May, I gave my self not 1, not 2 but 4 options to get from PDX to SEA. See I drove when possible, but on a whopping 1800 a month take home gas money wasn’t abundant. All QX flights were hosed, the OO Delta flight I missed due to a listing issue that is well documented. A flight that had open seat BTW, a situation that management didn’t take into consideration at all. Then another SkyWest CRJ that was late.

-The missed flight was a CDO that I had been given 12 hour call out. I was called at 845am for an 845pm show. I had proof being at the airport by 430 trying to list on that first Delta flight. Doesn’t sound like an unreliability issue to me

-Originally fired, although I didn’t just roll over. I reached out to SAPA and other resources, then was allowed to resign.

Those are the big points... Full story is buried back in another SkyWest Page.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

This was my experience with such policies at other airlines, too many restrictions. Typical requirements (some or all)...

- 2-3 Flights
- At least one hour apart
- Last one arrives at least one hour prior to show
- Must show seats in back
- Must be on a partner carrier (so management can verify seats)

Be careful what you ask for. The other downside is if you do miss a commute you WILL be disciplined if you didn't comply with all of that. I preferred the current system, make a *reasonable* effort under the circumstances and call in honest.

Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon

Ours is two options, one getting you there two hours early and one 30 minutes early. No carrier restrictions or time between flights. I’d take that any day over something as vague as “reasonable”.

Originally Posted by word302

I don't know, I commute in after my rap starts, to be in position 30 minutes before the end of my 2 hour callout. I change my outgoing message while I'm in the air. If the flights running late I call and get the "ok, we'll track the flight to see when you get there, thanks for letting us know". Your policy would mean gong the night before. Reasonable seems to work pretty good.

Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon

Reasonable assumes an always benevolent overlord. Chief pilots and CEO’s change. Contract language doesn’t without approval.

Originally Posted by bronc

Thats one way to say OO has the worst commuter policy because there isnt one and you can be fired for not making a commute

Originally Posted by amcnd

Educate yourself before judging it. Its the best we don’t have one. Why put a number to the time you can’t make it. The one you hear about are 10+ a year issues before disipline..

Regardless the best airline is the one you don’t have to commute too...