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HotMamaPilot 04-15-2007 07:18 AM

Republic promo
 
notice the brown md-11, and the River Visual 19 to DCA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olhaGpvYRUU

G-Dog 04-15-2007 08:15 AM

I sure the FAA appreciates this stuff. Still, the river vis to 19 is awesome.

threegreen 04-15-2007 09:27 AM

that song is so lame

kdoner 04-15-2007 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by threegreen (Post 149950)
that song is so lame

oh good, i'm not so mad that my boss took the speakers home this week.

shanejj 04-15-2007 09:41 AM

The guy at 2:20 is awesome!:D
lol

texaspilot76 04-15-2007 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by threegreen (Post 149950)
that song is so lame


I will say that that was a low point of Ted Nugent's career.

Laxrox43 04-15-2007 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 149972)
I will say that that was a low point of Ted Nugent's career.

I agree...loved Uncle Ted's solo career much much better. Nonetheless, that river visual sure was purty...

Lab Rat 04-15-2007 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 149919)
I sure the FAA appreciates this stuff. Still, the river vis to 19 is awesome.

I wonder if it is even legal to do this type of filming. This is from FAR 121.542:

(a) No certificate holder shall require, nor may any flight crew member perform any duties during a critical phase of flight except those duties required for the safe operation of the aircraft. Duties such as company required calls made for non-safety related purposes as ordering galley supplies and confirming passenger connections, announcements made to passengers promoting the air carrier or pointing out sights of interest and filling out company payroll and related records are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.

(b) No flight crew member may engage in, nor may any pilot in command permit, any activity during a critical phase of flight which could distract any flight crew member from the performance of his or her duties or which could interfere in any way with the proper conduct of those duties. Activities such as eating meals, engaging in non-essential conversations within the cockpit and non-essential communications between the cabin and cockpit crews, and reading publications not related to the proper conduct of the flight are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.

(c) For the purposes of this section, critical phase of flight involves all ground operations involving taxi, takeoff and landing, and all other flight operations conducted below 10,000 feet, except cruise flight.

BlueMoon 04-15-2007 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Lab Rat (Post 150011)
I wonder if it is even legal to do this type of filming. This is from FAR 121.542

Yea I'm sure the feds don't like this sort of stuff, but I'm yet to hear of someone getting nailed for it. Making someone's face visible in the video (like the CA in this one) is a bit risky, even though the movie is a compilation of flights.

JetJock16 04-15-2007 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Lab Rat (Post 150011)
I wonder if it is even legal to do this type of filming. This is from FAR 121.542:

(a) No certificate holder shall require, nor may any flight crew member perform any duties during a critical phase of flight except those duties required for the safe operation of the aircraft. Duties such as company required calls made for non-safety related purposes as ordering galley supplies and confirming passenger connections, announcements made to passengers promoting the air carrier or pointing out sights of interest and filling out company payroll and related records are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.

(b) No flight crew member may engage in, nor may any pilot in command permit, any activity during a critical phase of flight which could distract any flight crew member from the performance of his or her duties or which could interfere in any way with the proper conduct of those duties. Activities such as eating meals, engaging in non-essential conversations within the cockpit and non-essential communications between the cabin and cockpit crews, and reading publications not related to the proper conduct of the flight are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.

(c) For the purposes of this section, critical phase of flight involves all ground operations involving taxi, takeoff and landing, and all other flight operations conducted below 10,000 feet, except cruise flight.

Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah!

Who cares, just OK it with your CA and make sure there's not a fed in the jump.

Nice HMP, thanks for the VID.

JetJock16 04-15-2007 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 150017)
Yea I'm sure the feds don't like this sort of stuff, but I'm yet to hear of someone getting nailed for it. Making someone's face visible in the video (like the CA in this one) is a bit risky, even though the movie is a compilation of flights.

Agree, leaves faces out. No need to draw unwanted attention to anyone.

shackone 04-15-2007 12:44 PM

The CA with the hands with missing fingers...what was he doing?

JoeyMeatballs 04-15-2007 01:50 PM

Who filmed that???????????????Capt Cheeseball, the video was good, the song blew

Lab Rat 04-15-2007 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 150021)
Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah!

Who cares, just OK it with your CA and make sure there's not a fed in the jump.

Nice HMP, thanks for the VID.

Who cares? I'm sure the paying passengers in the back don't appreciate the "professionals" up front making home videos instead of flying the airplane. Taking pictures at FL350 is one thing, making videos when flying the river visual into DCA is another.

Lab Rat 04-15-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 150017)
Yea I'm sure the feds don't like this sort of stuff, but I'm yet to hear of someone getting nailed for it. Making someone's face visible in the video (like the CA in this one) is a bit risky, even though the movie is a compilation of flights.

If I'm not mistaken I think someone did get busted for doing this. I heard of an ASA crew who was filming a landing and somehow filmed the flight number too.

AV8ER 04-16-2007 07:25 AM

HMP...which one is your husband?

HotMamaPilot 04-16-2007 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 150490)
HMP...which one is your husband?

one of our very good friends is in it, but not my man! btw, i have no clue who did it.

LOW FUEL 04-16-2007 11:02 AM

A Mesa crew got fired for filming an app. into IAD some years ago. Probably the best thing to happen to those two guys.

DMEarc 04-16-2007 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Lab Rat (Post 150236)
Who cares? I'm sure the paying passengers in the back don't appreciate the "professionals" up front making home videos instead of flying the airplane. Taking pictures at FL350 is one thing, making videos when flying the river visual into DCA is another.

Who cares. Captain is the PIC, his judgement superseeds the FARs when he deems its necessary for the safety of the flight.

Some of you guys are just aholes.

Lab Rat 04-16-2007 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 150656)
Who cares. Captain is the PIC, his judgement superseeds the FARs when he deems its necessary for the safety of the flight.

Some of you guys are just aholes.

Since when is taking videos from the cockpit considered "necessary for the safety of the flight"?

BTW, the captain is exercising poor judgment if he allows the first officer to film the flight below 10,000 feet.

jeff122670 04-16-2007 04:40 PM

great video!!! and i think the song is appropriate...

i mean, with military flying videos, hate music is best...but "bombs over baghdad" or "let the bodies hit the floor" just doesnt do that picturesque approach over the nations capital justice!!......ha.ha!!

keep the videos coming....and hey, look at it this way, at least the guy who made this seems to like his job and isnt bitching about the company....(ooops, did i say that...)

deadstick35 04-16-2007 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 150807)
i mean, with military flying videos, hate music is best...but "bombs over baghdad" or "let the bodies hit the floor" just doesnt do that picturesque approach over the nations capital justice!!......ha.ha!!


Grouchy Media rocks!!:D I love Taliban Bodies, Magic F-18, and of course America's Defense.



http://www.murdoconline.net/2007/americaisatthemall.jpg

JetJock16 04-16-2007 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by Lab Rat (Post 150723)
Since when is taking videos from the cockpit considered "necessary for the safety of the flight"?

BTW, the captain is exercising poor judgment if he allows the first officer to film the flight below 10,000 feet.

Apparently you think that being the PNF (Pilot Not Flying) on a visual is a stressful job. BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

Please, if it's an approach to mins or a stormy gusty day I'd agree with you. But on a beautiful calm day, the PNF's role during a visual approach is as stressful as watching your favorite TV show. You just sit there and watch. Besides, every video that I've ever taken and I've take a lot, didn't require any of my attention. There was always a nice, safe, secure and stable location for me to place the SMALL camera (a little larger than a wallet) while receiving a quality video. Even if you have to hold the camera in your hand, you can still do your job with the level of awareness a PNF needs. After all, you don't have to look through the camera to aim it!

You must be a fed or one boring pilot who I'm glad I don't have to fly with. After completing a miserable pairing with you, I'd definitely "Bid Avoid" you on the next bid. That's one thing that I truly like about PBS, if you're flying with a bad CA or FO then you're not stuck with them for the entire month and on the next bid you can "Bid Avoid" them without anybody ever knowing. Just complete the pairing and odds are you won't see him the rest of the month. No harm, No foul.

If you can't enjoy your job, while being safe, then what can you do?

sgrd0q 04-17-2007 03:54 AM

Those who've been around for a while will know that runway incursions do happen in the best of weather and mistakes during approach also happen in the best of weather. Hence the sterile cockpit concept. The cockpit is rarely truly sterile but shooting a video is definitely over the top in my opinion.

HotMamaPilot 04-17-2007 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by sgrd0q (Post 151084)
Those who've been around for a while will know that runway incursions do happen in the best of weather and mistakes during approach also happen in the best of weather. Hence the sterile cockpit concept. The cockpit is rarely truly sterile but shooting a video is definitely over the top in my opinion.

jet jok, i'm on your side. realistically, there is no harm in shootin a quick flick. I wonder what experience level those so opposed to it have? seems like they are still in the idealist mode and too brain washed by silly rules. not to say that a sterile cockpit is silly, but gimme a break......an exception can be made occasionally.

AV8ER 04-17-2007 06:21 AM

Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???

G-Dog 04-17-2007 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 151152)
Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???

Notice the plane did not fall out of the sky.

AV8ER 04-17-2007 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 151153)
Notice the plane did not fall out of the sky.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Helium3 04-17-2007 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 151152)
Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???


Laptops can be a problem only if they have wireless capability.
This is also true for wireless PDAs and some other wireless communication devices.
It is unlikely that even these will interfere as they operate on a frequency far from the equipment used in aircraft with the exception of ADF. Primarily radio communication and possibly fly-by-wire components are a concern but you are unlikely to encounter a problem there either.
You may hear the effects if you ever use these devices near an AM radio.

I haven't put in .02 yet so I thought it only appropriate to pay my dues.

AV8ER 04-17-2007 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Helium3 (Post 151176)
Laptops can be a problem only if they have wireless capability.
This is also true for wireless PDAs and some other wireless communication devices.
It is unlikely that even these will interfere as they operate on a frequency far from the equipment used in aircraft with the exception of ADF. Primarily radio communication and possibly fly-by-wire components are a concern but you are unlikely to encounter a problem there either.
You may hear the effects if you ever use these devices near an AM radio.

I haven't put in .02 yet so I thought it only appropriate to pay my dues.

I gues I should have put a sarcastic smiley by my post...I thought the part about "and will make it fall out of the sky" would be enough...:rolleyes:

Helium3 04-17-2007 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 151178)
I gues I should have put a sarcastic smiley by my post...I thought the part about "and will make it fall out of the sky" would be enough...:rolleyes:


Nothing intended by my remarks....Just stating what I think I know.:D

HotMamaPilot 04-17-2007 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Helium3 (Post 151201)
Nothing intended by my remarks....Just stating what I think I know.:D

i think that the RV 19 is a scene that must be video'd and filmed. cool approach. kudos to those who did it!

Lab Rat 04-17-2007 08:29 AM


After completing a miserable pairing with you, I'd definitely "Bid Avoid" you on the next bid.
Miserable pairing? Man, if you think a trip would be misreable just because the captain wouldn't let you film parts of the flight you must be more immature than I originally thought.


That's one thing that I truly like about PBS, if you're flying with a bad CA or FO then you're not stuck with them for the entire month and on the next bid you can "Bid Avoid" them without anybody ever knowing.
It's a two-way street.

Helium3 04-17-2007 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 151243)
i think that the RV 19 is a scene that must be video'd and filmed. cool approach. kudos to those who did it!

I agree that the video was great.

My point was that it is not likely that a video camera could have caused any interference.:)

JetJock16 04-17-2007 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Lab Rat (Post 151251)
Miserable pairing? Man, if you think a trip would be misreable just because the captain wouldn't let you film parts of the flight you must be more immature than I originally thought.


It's a two-way street.

LR, you completely missed the point didn't you! Go back and read between the lines.

JetJock16 04-17-2007 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 151152)
Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???

Did anyone see the Mythbusters episode where they tried to create an interference with a/c Radios/Navs? They had to go WAY over the top just to notice anything and proved it.

JetJock16 04-17-2007 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by sgrd0q (Post 151084)
Those who've been around for a while will know that runway incursions do happen in the best of weather and mistakes during approach also happen in the best of weather. Hence the sterile cockpit concept. The cockpit is rarely truly sterile but shooting a video is definitely over the top in my opinion.

I know during the times my CA was shooting, I was concentration even more so that the approach and landing was almost perfect. I wanted to look great on film so I raise the bar.

The bottom line is that the PNF/PF can still do his/her job with the concentration level he/she needs as long as they aren't paying total attention to the camera and you know where you responsibilities lie. In my case I can place it in a secure location and it absolutely takes NONE of mine or the CA attention. There's no verbiage and acting in the film so the PF and PNF can still maintain total concentration on the task at hand. It's called being responsible.

sigep_nm 04-17-2007 12:38 PM

The whole cell phone in flight thing has nothing to do with interferenece as jetjock and the myth busters have pointed it. It goes back a decade or so ago, and was put into place by the Federal Communications Commision (I know this because I know the former head of the FCC, here name is Gloria Tristani, look it up if you want, Clinton Admin). Anyways it had to do with cell phone signals hitting various cell phone towers, therefore not allowing the cell phone company to figure out where the call was originating from, and therefor not allowing them to charge roaming and so forth. That was straight from the horses mouth. Think of how many towers you could reach from FL350. It is outdated technology now and therefore probably an outdated law, or reg, whatever you want to call it.
Just my .02c, actually that is more like a whole dollar.

Blknight 04-17-2007 02:34 PM

Thanks for the video HMP... And you just gotta love the captain throwing his "Gang Signs" in the cockpit ;)

JetJock16 04-17-2007 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 151395)
The whole cell phone in flight thing has nothing to do with interferenece as jetjock and the myth busters have pointed it. It goes back a decade or so ago, and was put into place by the Federal Communications Commision (I know this because I know the former head of the FCC, here name is Gloria Tristani, look it up if you want, Clinton Admin). Anyways it had to do with cell phone signals hitting various cell phone towers, therefore not allowing the cell phone company to figure out where the call was originating from, and therefor not allowing them to charge roaming and so forth. That was straight from the horses mouth. Think of how many towers you could reach from FL350. It is outdated technology now and therefore probably an outdated law, or reg, whatever you want to call it.
Just my .02c, actually that is more like a whole dollar.

Excellent point, currently the airlines are trying to develop and implement technology that will allow the a/c to operate as it own cell transmitter; giving the cell phone companies the ability to track as well as increase airline revenue.


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