Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2790025)

You'd only have to do it once and all the rest would STHU...

Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2790050)

Yes...that would be true.

Problem is everyone would be scared to transmit. Are we going to go after the accidental communication to ops? How about the guy who’s emergency just really wasn’t emergency enough. It’s just silly to care about. It’s a slippery slope no one wants to go after.

Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2790050)

What I hate more than the meows and Delta response is the squelch on they freq. I just end up flipping it off.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2790037)

Actually it would help move the FCC along if the media did an expose on this.

Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2790216)

Let’s say they do DF a few airplanes, how will they justify the costs of having LEOs at that many airports on standby?

Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2790115)

Worst case you get an ACARS message. Don’t ask me how I know.

Plus...if we get rid of the MEOWS how will we ever have the excuse to why we weren’t listening.

Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2790047)

Easier said .... I just don’t buy it. FAA having updated equipment, getting the union on board with taking the CVR...etc. not ever going to happen

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2790025)

I've been in the room for that, it's real. But they mostly use airstrikes. UBL had a lot of help to stay hidden. The PAK ISI was pretty familiar with the TTPs used to locate and track badguys... and they are, shall we say, sympathetic to the badguys.




FCC has mobile DF units for exactly this reason... locating unauthorized users of the RF spectrum. Otherwise it would be the wild wild west out there.

The challenge for aircraft is it would take a while to get a plane DF-ed when no other planes were within the RMS error. Once you do that, just have feds meet the plane at the gate and secure the CVR as evidence. Would also need a flight that landed within 2 hours of the offense. So some effort required, but the FCC employs people who do that for a living. You'd only have to do it once and all the rest would STHU...

Originally Posted by WestCoastFlyr (Post 2790560)

I'm not sure the FAA would be successful in securing CVR data as evidence. The administrator is prohibited from using ANY data on the CVR for any type of civil penalty or certificate action. This isn't a union thing either, it's in the CFR's. If they tried to secure the CVR data for this reason, any lawyer worth a grain of salt could likely get this data excluded quoting FAR 121.359 (h). In fact, I'm pretty sure it was also disclosed that the FAA has never, in history, listened to a CVR recording that didn't involve a serious accident, or where the NTSB balked at investigating.