Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, it’s now up to $86.

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...etblue_airways

That’s still a pay cut for a senior regional captain most places today. Especially when you consider the cost of the crash pad and the loss of scheduling priority that allowed them to pick up premium pay. Even more so if they were an LCA or SLIP living in base. The point is that it’s a CUT.

 

How about with retirement? Profit sharing? It's pretty easy to skew the numbers the other way.

 

Wonder if all of this is the reason women live longer than men.

 

Many reasons people don’t leave. It’s always funny though when people make up stories to justify their reasons why they haven’t left. This from a Skywest lifer thread is typical

“
I'm running into guys who left 20 year ago.

One guy, a UAL F/O wishes he'd never left.

One guy got furloughed by the same major - twice. He was literally an OO new-hire three times.

Another guy is a wide-body F/O. He could easily be a narrow-body captain but still wouldn't hold weekends off.

Everyone I know who went to SWA is happy there and making good money. I often ask them what there are doing next weekend - invariably, it's working.

Most of the guys I know that were unhappy here are unhappy elsewhere too”

Newsflash. I’ve NEVER met anyone from UA, DL, SWA or the bigger cargo carriers who think they make a mistake leaving. Crock of shjt. They guy that posted that is essentially unhirable anyway as he’s a miserable SOAB.

 

The vast majority of the weirdest and worst pilots I flew with at XJT were lifers. Always with an excuse of why they stayed on and the excuse was always odd.

 

Lol. Yup, and how long would a new hire have to stick around here to hold a captain seat with weekends off in a west coast base? MF is quite a character.

 

No.

Every profession should reasonably represent a fair cross section of qualified applicants. If there's real discrimination it would show up there.

Also reasonable (IMO only) to help improve education and outreach for the youth of under-represented demographics. I'm willing to pay for that too. Teach a man to fish and all that.

But once you're an adult you need to compete on your merits, otherwise you institutionalize hypocrisy, perpetuate racial/cultural divides, and perpetuate a culture of people who do not stand on their own two feet. Look to the federal civil service if you have any questions about that last.

 

Absolutely not!

People should be hired on their merits, nothing more (except maybe their personalities too of course).

Hiring someone for their skin color, nationality, race, sexual preference, sex, etc is pure discrimination -- the same as it would be for NOT hiring someone based on the same criteria.

 

Oh, EVENTUALLY it’s a MUCH better deal, if the person has enough flying years left, but that doesn’t stop it from being a short term hit in the pocketbook. And yeah, I could certainly take the hit and maybe you could too, but I don’t have kids in college or any serious medical problems in my family that my insurance doesn’t cover or kids that have run afoul of drugs or the law. And frankly, some people just live paycheck to paycheck and it doesn’t matter if they are a regional FO or a legacy widebidy captain. I’m not advocating that lifestyle, but a lot of people do it.

All I’m saying is that it would be easier to take the step from senior regional captain to juniorist of the junior major FO if the economic hit weren’t there.

 

NOPE, diversity is good, but NOT FOR DIVERSITY'S SAKE.

Wow, you mean like how being a pilot doesn't really interest a certain sex as much as the other?

Also been proven that when the reality of an airline career hits them, they bail out.

Ya think?

Yet straight males go into nursing, yet under represented. Teachers, same.....

And why are singling out "straight"?

Exactly, the point I've made, Goggles has in the past, and others is, what's the ratio of those specific applicants vs. interviewed/hired? Pretty sure it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out.

EXACTLY. This is where the help, chance, opportunity needs to be extended/given.

Again, true.