Regional lifers. Why are they stuck?
03-30-2019 | 08:41 AM
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03-30-2019 | 09:26 AM
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Take two pilots, one white male, the other a female. Same flight times, ratings, education, training records, background, basically all things being equal.
Send both of their apps into the majors, and my money is on the female to get an interview and be hired first. I'm not saying the male wouldn't be hired also or eventually, but if they're vying for one spot, it's not even a contest.
Who would you put your money on?
Send both of their apps into the majors, and my money is on the female to get an interview and be hired first. I'm not saying the male wouldn't be hired also or eventually, but if they're vying for one spot, it's not even a contest.
Who would you put your money on?
03-30-2019 | 09:47 AM
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03-30-2019 | 09:48 AM
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This begs the question: Should every profession represent a cross-section of society?
Professional sports teams?
Hairdressers?
Pedicurists?
Wait staff?
Nurses?
Teachers?
If not, why?
Professional sports teams?
Hairdressers?
Pedicurists?
Wait staff?
Nurses?
Teachers?
If not, why?
03-30-2019 | 10:08 AM
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03-30-2019 | 10:21 AM
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Lots of factors but among them is the ridiculous first year wages at some of the ULCCs. There was a long discussion on this subject on a Frontier thread back when their negotiations were going on. The pilot group didn't wish to "waste" any "negotiating capital" on bringing newbie's on board. So what did the first year FO wages end up?
$58 an hour for Frontier
$57 for Spirit
$78 for JetBlue
So if you are currently making $90-100 an hour as a regional captain, WITH YOUR CHOICE OF SCHEDULES, how hard is it to take a 45% pay cut for a year and go back on reserve in some crash pad for a couple years, because your roots are too firmly planted after a decade or so to relocate? Pretty hard. Not impossible, certainly, but it's a serious emotional barrier, and the more senior (i.e., older) you are, the smaller the carrot for doing it and the greater the carrot for just staying put.
So in a way it's the major airlines' pilot union negotiating tactics that are hurting these guys, or at least making the decision to move on more complicated than it would otherwise be.
$58 an hour for Frontier
$57 for Spirit
$78 for JetBlue
So if you are currently making $90-100 an hour as a regional captain, WITH YOUR CHOICE OF SCHEDULES, how hard is it to take a 45% pay cut for a year and go back on reserve in some crash pad for a couple years, because your roots are too firmly planted after a decade or so to relocate? Pretty hard. Not impossible, certainly, but it's a serious emotional barrier, and the more senior (i.e., older) you are, the smaller the carrot for doing it and the greater the carrot for just staying put.
So in a way it's the major airlines' pilot union negotiating tactics that are hurting these guys, or at least making the decision to move on more complicated than it would otherwise be.
03-30-2019 | 10:48 AM
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Other jobs, they just don't want to do. How many straight men do nails? How many women collect garbage? Both potentially pay well, just no desire to do it.
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