Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

Regional questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-17-2019 | 10:25 AM
  #21  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Yeah, but not too much TT. After about 8K they don’t seem to like you.
I know pilots at the legacies who also scratch their heads about it. It seems that once you hit your 40’s as a non military FW pilot your chances drop dramatically. While there are exceptions to the age rule, they are exceptions.
The only common thread I saw in the FOs getting picked up was that they were less than 35 years old but over six years as an FO. Unless they were a targeted demographic. I saw some of those FOs picked up after 3-4 years.
The only FOs i know of that have gone right seat to right seat have: been a 121 FO for 4.5 years and had 5000+ TT, were of a specific ethnicity, or had significant TPIC already. Even pilots of the “minority gender” have been CAs for the most part believe it or not.
Reply
Old 04-17-2019 | 10:28 AM
  #22  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 42jeff
Can I quote you on that?
Hey, I am just capitulating to the two Ms. They said it, not me.
Reply
Old 04-17-2019 | 10:54 AM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Fit4Doody
The only FOs i know of that have gone right seat to right seat have: been a 121 FO for 4.5 years and had 5000+ TT, were of a specific ethnicity, or had significant TPIC already. Even pilots of the “minority gender” have been CAs for the most part believe it or not.
I know a number of minority FOs who went to legacy carriers with zero TPIC, less than 4 years and less than 5000TT. Otherwise they needed to have more than 5 years, most were about 8 years.
But this was XJT. It seemed to be the exception there.
Reply
Old 04-17-2019 | 12:43 PM
  #24  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 102
From: Whale FO
Default

Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I know a number of minority FOs who went to legacy carriers with zero TPIC, less than 4 years and less than 5000TT. Otherwise they needed to have more than 5 years, most were about 8 years.
But this was XJT. It seemed to be the exception there.
My first CFI went to Delta after 2 years as XJT FO.
Reply
Old 04-17-2019 | 04:38 PM
  #25  
Cujo665's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,578
Likes: 48
From: Semi-Retired...
Default

Originally Posted by dera
My first CFI went to Delta after 2 years as XJT FO.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see the total time of average female, or minority when hired at a legacy airline vs a white male hired at the same legacy?
Reply
Old 04-17-2019 | 04:40 PM
  #26  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 102
From: Whale FO
Default

Originally Posted by Cujo665
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see the total time of average female, or minority when hired at a legacy airline vs a white male hired at the same legacy?
She was a great CFI...
Reply
Old 04-18-2019 | 04:30 AM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
From: Ca. CRJ 200
Default

Originally Posted by Cujo665
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see the total time of average female, or minority when hired at a legacy airline vs a white male hired at the same legacy?
You're playing with fire there....

[Begin sarcasm font]surely you aren't implying they would preferential hiring ..... [end sarcasm font]
Reply
Old 04-19-2019 | 05:21 PM
  #28  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default Regional Options

Hello all,

I am approaching ATP minimums and starting to consider applying to the regionals. I live in the Miami area and have been reading several of the forums to learn and educate myself on choosing the best regional for my situation.

Obviously, if you only get one offer - easy answer. But for arguments sake lets assume you get multiple offers.

I agreed that living on base is first priority. My understanding is Envoy and Republic are the only regionals with bases in Miami. I have seen Republic advertise for MIA but from reading the boards it sounds like MIA is very senior and you wouldn't get that base for quite some time and am also concerned with the number of hours you fly on reserve and length of time on reserve with both Envoy and Republic.
Envoy has the flow but that would not be my primary reason for choosing them - but good backup plan.

Do you go to Envoy or Republic to wait for Miami base for better QOL or choose another regional with shorter reserve times and faster upgrades, get your time in and move on?

If not stuck on MIA base, then I'm thinking of at least trying on stay on east coast or no further west than Chicago for hopefully 1 leg commute.

Looking for opinions as I really don't know how to look up reserve times for the different airlines/different bases/hours flown per month on reserve, etc. other than what I have read on APC. Is that info available online as I have not seen it?

What's the opinion on interviewing with multiple companies, accepting class dates and then cancelling once you decided on which regional is best for you? Has anyone had it bite you in the but down the road? For whatever reason, if you wanted to move or apply to a regional that you had previously accepted a class date and later cancelled, would they consider you again?

This is only my second post on APC, be gentle.
Thanks in advance for you help.
Reply
Old 04-19-2019 | 05:34 PM
  #29  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 102
From: Whale FO
Default

Miami for Envoy went super junior on the last bid, they actually had to involuntary TDY a few FOs for MIA 145.

Whatever you choose, regional rule nr 1: No regional is worth commuting for.
Driving to work beats any work rule or payscale a regional can throw at you.
Reply
Old 04-20-2019 | 04:49 PM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,285
Likes: 0
From: 175 CA
Default

Originally Posted by dera
Miami for Envoy went super junior on the last bid, they actually had to involuntary TDY a few FOs for MIA 145.

Whatever you choose, regional rule nr 1: No regional is worth commuting for.
Driving to work beats any work rule or payscale a regional can throw at you.
They didn't involuntary TDY any FO's. Just captains.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Future Cpt Kirk
Career Questions
34
04-09-2015 03:56 PM
sigtauenus
Regional
24
09-20-2007 02:58 PM
juustapilot
Regional
3
12-06-2006 10:11 AM
ryane946
Major
12
10-09-2006 05:52 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices