BobbyLeeSwagger

Why don't you come to Compass, get your 300 remaining hours... Take the first upgrade (likely bypassing), by then you'll know our fate, apply to the majors in the meantime. Worst case, you say thank you to compass for the 300+ hrs, 500 tpic, and ABQ overnights as we close our doors in a couple years. It won't be a waste of time.. I assume your goal is hours and then a major, not regional stability.

We compass homies don't recommend us for everyone's situation but I would come here if I were in your shoes. If you come here, you'll just be joining a whole pilot group of dice rollers.. It's working out for us so far. Only a very exclusive small group of people got a raw deal here, but they've been the exception.

You're also not gonna find too many people you don't like flying with here, for what it's worth.

Poser765

usually BobbyLee’s area of expertise is in flight snacks and memes, but he is spot on here. Compass is definitely not for everyone but in your case OP I think compass is a great choice.

CP’s fate is far from certain, despite what some MQ and OO pilots think. Sure they could fold with the loss of their CPAs but that’s still a year or two away. It’s a gamble, but by then, worst case you leave with pretty close to 1000 tpic... which puts you in a much better place to move up IF they do close up shop.

Sure you could go to Envoy and upgrade fast but you’ll upgrade to perpetual reserve in New York with a who knows how long flow in your back pocket. Is a commute 3/4 across the country what you want for the foreseeable future? Not me.

Compass is a really ok company with good flying and easily the best co workers I’ve ever worked with... to include BobbyLee! Also, when I was there my three most common overnights by far where SJC, SMF, and you guessed it... ABQ.

BobbyLeeSwagger

Haha, miss you around here homie! Hope the airbus life is treatin you well. I'll be outta here one day. I just need to recruit and train my replacement on the snack basket committee first.

Poser765

Miss you, too, my friend...And your SO.

Yellow is treating my great. The guys here ain’t you guys, but still a good group.

Yeah man, forget the snack basket, it’s time to shine. Move on up!

Excargodog

A BLATANT attempt to hijack our snack basket auditor.

Whatsamatter Poser? Spirit not have any decent pogey-bait and you need the Snack Master to negotiate for the pilot’s group?

Seriously, glad you are happy there. Imagine you’ll even be happier when you are on SECOND year pay.

SoFloFlyer

I’ve always heard that, but never understand why. What makes Envoy have the worse reserve rules in the industry?

WillFlyForSpam

I flew at compass up until February of this year. Take away the commute hell, and it was probably the best groups of dudes/dudettes you’ll find in the industry. Even the grumpy (and there were just a handful) were still pleasant to fly with. I also have friends at envoy and when I was at compass they’d text me asking “should I come to compass?” They aren’t too happy where they are now buuuuutttttt everyone is different. One mans trash....

Is compass vulnerable because they don’t own any of their planes and contracts are expiring? ***k yeah. Will you get a crap ton of flight time while still having a great time? ***k yeah. Will you enjoy the flying while making jokes with your captain about losing the contract? ***k yeah.

Also - snack baskets. ‘Nuff said.

Nobody at compass is looking to be there forever. Get in, get out, get ahead, CPZ College. Regional life is meant to be fun while building your resume. I’ve found compass gave me both. I was there for just over a year and now I’m at my dream job.

Did compass help me get to where I am now?

***k yeah.

Marlin

I would go with a wholly owned, probably Envoy, as you live in ABQ. There are many, many regional folks that appear to check all the boxes for the majors, but just don’t get the call. Who knows why, but if you were to land in this group down the road, the flow-thru is a guaranteed (as good as any guarantee in this biz) ticket up and out . The regional life is tough(I did it for 10 years), and not a place you want to be long term!!
Joe

Cyio

If you have a degree and a clean record I would avoid Envoy at all cost, especially as a commuter.

Cujo665

If you anticipate more than a few years at any regional then your choices are much fewer for any stability.
Any wholly owned should be a first choice, I’d do Endeavor first, Envoy second, PSA third... even PDT; then both Skywest and Republic.
The smaller places will go through attrition based shrinkage, eventual mergers-consolidations and bankruptcy buyouts.
As hiring gets harder for smaller places it’s hard to upgrade or even hold your seat when not enough are coming in behind you. The mainlines control the flying. They aren’t going to starve their WO before taking the flying back to their own regionals.

PSA has a better QOL and pay right now, but Envoy is in negotiations to fix theirs. Oh, and even Envoy DECs are not automatically getting NY currently, so that isn’t an automatic as somebody had earlier alluded to.

If you’re going to commute. The WO travel benefits are better, and if it comes down to a compass guy or a ENY-PSA guy getting on anything AA/AE the compass guy is SOL. Same with Endeavor and Delta. Little things like getting your first commute choice add up to QOL over time.