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Cujo665 09-05-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by PilotsLife YoHo (Post 2818237)
You're right. I didnt give enough info.

Married with kids. Cant move because in laws are older and not doing too well. Live in ABQ. Total time 2900. 700 Prior 121. No military time.

Cujo made some great points too. I've done a fair amount of research but I'm having a hard time.

Envoy said to expect an upgrade within 6 months. I'm worried about a bunch of FO's who are senior to me upgrading after I do and then I'm perpetually stuck at the the bottom of the reserve list. I do want to enjoy some quality of life.

Compass doesn't have this problem. I'll upgrade in seniority order, from what I understand. Will they be around in 2 years though? That's anyone's guess. People seem much happier there.

I feel like I'm choosing quality of life over possible longevity.

How’s it looking now?

Tried to tell people this would happen.

Taco280AI 09-05-2019 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2881830)
How’s it looking now?

Tried to tell people this would happen.

Still yet TBD...

rickair7777 09-05-2019 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2881830)
How’s it looking now?

Tried to tell people this would happen.

Well at least he didn't lose too much seniority before it came crashing down.

rld1k 09-05-2019 12:11 PM

I guess you shouldn't choose your airline based on who has the best memes

Excargodog 09-05-2019 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2881931)
I guess you shouldn't choose your airline based on who has the best memes

It ain’t over until the fat lady sings, and she ain’t sung yet.

koala98g 09-05-2019 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2881937)
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings, and she ain’t sung yet.

I watched Independence Day last night, too. Seriously.

DarkSideMoon 09-05-2019 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2881830)
How’s it looking now?

Tried to tell people this would happen.

Little early to be dancing on a grave isn’t it? Jesus.

BigZ 09-05-2019 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2882155)
Little early to be dancing on a grave isn’t it? Jesus.

Eh, it's a reverse voodoo.
The more people dance on the company's grave, the more vibes are generated by the current pilots there, the higher the likelihood of deus ex machina happening. Re: GoJet and CRJ550.
Reality is... up until now someone (mostly UAL) would come up and "save" a regional in distress (AirWis, GJ, Express as of late). It is understood that at some point that won't happen anymore and a major cluster would follow. Major clusters end up sending major ripples throughout the industry. Ripples are rarely all good. In other words, we are all in this together.
PS Except Mesa. They've got 'em SpaceJets. Different league now. Right up there with the Space Forces.

flyguy727 09-06-2019 04:23 AM

You need to make decisions based on your lifestyle, not which company I should work for. All these commuters offer the same benefits. But you should try Southern or Kalitta Charters. You'll get more time off, which might serve you best.

Cujo665 09-06-2019 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy727 (Post 2882273)
You need to make decisions based on your lifestyle, not which company I should work for. All these commuters offer the same benefits. But you should try Southern or Kalitta Charters. You'll get more time off, which might serve you best.

Actually, all these regionals are not the same. Go ask the RAH guys upset at being D6 on AA flights while AA-ENY-PSA-PDT are all D2.

There are lots of subtle little differences that collectively add up to make them significantly different. Saying TSA and Envoy are the same is like saying Sun Country and Southwest are the same... they fly the same equipment and type of routes.... right.

I do agree that many regional guys would be far better off at ACMI’s


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