Compass vs. Envoy
09-05-2019 | 09:07 AM
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You're right. I didnt give enough info.
Married with kids. Cant move because in laws are older and not doing too well. Live in ABQ. Total time 2900. 700 Prior 121. No military time.
Cujo made some great points too. I've done a fair amount of research but I'm having a hard time.
Envoy said to expect an upgrade within 6 months. I'm worried about a bunch of FO's who are senior to me upgrading after I do and then I'm perpetually stuck at the the bottom of the reserve list. I do want to enjoy some quality of life.
Compass doesn't have this problem. I'll upgrade in seniority order, from what I understand. Will they be around in 2 years though? That's anyone's guess. People seem much happier there.
I feel like I'm choosing quality of life over possible longevity.
Married with kids. Cant move because in laws are older and not doing too well. Live in ABQ. Total time 2900. 700 Prior 121. No military time.
Cujo made some great points too. I've done a fair amount of research but I'm having a hard time.
Envoy said to expect an upgrade within 6 months. I'm worried about a bunch of FO's who are senior to me upgrading after I do and then I'm perpetually stuck at the the bottom of the reserve list. I do want to enjoy some quality of life.
Compass doesn't have this problem. I'll upgrade in seniority order, from what I understand. Will they be around in 2 years though? That's anyone's guess. People seem much happier there.
I feel like I'm choosing quality of life over possible longevity.
Tried to tell people this would happen.
09-05-2019 | 09:29 AM
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09-05-2019 | 08:41 PM
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Eh, it's a reverse voodoo.
The more people dance on the company's grave, the more vibes are generated by the current pilots there, the higher the likelihood of deus ex machina happening. Re: GoJet and CRJ550.
Reality is... up until now someone (mostly UAL) would come up and "save" a regional in distress (AirWis, GJ, Express as of late). It is understood that at some point that won't happen anymore and a major cluster would follow. Major clusters end up sending major ripples throughout the industry. Ripples are rarely all good. In other words, we are all in this together.
PS Except Mesa. They've got 'em SpaceJets. Different league now. Right up there with the Space Forces.
The more people dance on the company's grave, the more vibes are generated by the current pilots there, the higher the likelihood of deus ex machina happening. Re: GoJet and CRJ550.
Reality is... up until now someone (mostly UAL) would come up and "save" a regional in distress (AirWis, GJ, Express as of late). It is understood that at some point that won't happen anymore and a major cluster would follow. Major clusters end up sending major ripples throughout the industry. Ripples are rarely all good. In other words, we are all in this together.
PS Except Mesa. They've got 'em SpaceJets. Different league now. Right up there with the Space Forces.
09-06-2019 | 04:23 AM
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You need to make decisions based on your lifestyle, not which company I should work for. All these commuters offer the same benefits. But you should try Southern or Kalitta Charters. You'll get more time off, which might serve you best.
09-06-2019 | 09:30 AM
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There are lots of subtle little differences that collectively add up to make them significantly different. Saying TSA and Envoy are the same is like saying Sun Country and Southwest are the same... they fly the same equipment and type of routes.... right.
I do agree that many regional guys would be far better off at ACMI’s
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