Anybody in the Mesa Airlines May 7 training class???
 

Hey,
Just wondering who is going?? I was hired and I accepted it because I got the plane I wanted, and I believe I will get the base i want. I will be flying into phoenix may 6....let me know who is going!?

What are your times, if I may ask?

850 /150 multi

You could have gone anywhere but Mesa... good luck...

He doesn't care....he got his CRJ... :cool:
I believe MESA has a sign on bonus of $5,000
BUT you need to sign a what, 10year contract??:D

think the bonus was for currently qualified pilots, not new hires. although, are you a newhire? i'd assume so, i can't imagine anyone making a crossmove to mesa just for plane and base...it'd be like deciding to go to trans states because you want the ERJ and St. Louis.

Deal is you had to of had United Express experience. Maybe the guy got a hometown base, gotta build your time somewhere. I can tell you for a fact that unless you live 6 minutes from the airport you are based at and you are home every night, you'll be looking before the end of your 1 year training contract.

WOW chose Mesa just for the plane your on? Ya what base do you want? If its ORD/IAD you will get it any other base fat chance...

Wow! go some were else.... Spent 2 years there would rather eat cat sh!t then experince mesa again! Get youself 250-500hrs SIC and leave... But hay I was just as happy as you are if not more, so only saying DO NOT make the same mistake I did. Put it this way next month I become a second year FO at XJET and my buddys are comming up on 4 years and I make more money!!!! Oh yah and more days off... QOL QOL QOL QOL QOL QOL

Let me be the first to say "THANKS :mad: ," for being another Blind Sided SJSer :confused: . I know you don't understand but I can tell just from reading your posting that you have no idea what I'm talking about or why everyone is crackin' on you. Ignorant, not stupid, newbie’s like you are what's driving our industry down. But don’t worry you’ll figure it out soon enough. Until then spend sometime researching Mesa by using the search function, then maybe you can SAVE YOURSELF :eek: and bail on Mesa before it’s to late.

It's been stated above by Low Fuel but I'll repeat it. QOL is MORE important than a/c! You must learn this immediately!

P.S. Just in case you don't know: SJS = Shiny Jet Syndrome (Mesa banks on this) & QOL = Quality Of Life (Mesa the worst)

I'm going to say no that they are at Republic. I've just seen tons of these guys here interviewing.

[quote=Lewisflyer83;156594]
I was hired and I accepted it because I got the plane I wanted, and I believe I will get the base i want.quote]

:rolleyes: We're all countin' on ya kid.

Your right, i did get the base i wanted and you have to start somewhere. So I will go with the flow til the end of the year contract, then i will either stay or go somewhere else. Having CRJ time will obviously make someone more marketable.

Im from chicago...and i got ORD

Apparently someone didn't get the memo...

yeah just think, if you held off for a little longer you could have had Skywest and upgraded before your contract is up with Mesaucks. Have fun with that!!:confused:

Well, Mesa is where all the Skywest pilots get their initial jet training, right? :D

Seriously tho, to Lewis- I had a few buddies at Mesa who would rather have had their nuts ripped off by weed whacker than stay there. After a month on the line, you'll start realizing how much QOL is worth and hopefully come to your senses about that place.

Good Lord...The guy only asked if there was anybody on here that may be in his up-coming class! Lay off people. Fine Mesa sucks, who cares about that right now, if that was his concern, he probably would have posted so. Anyhow, there is plenty to read on these forums about each and every airline, and I am sure that the word is already out. Just my .02 cents here!

Lewisflyer83 doesn't know what he's doing. You don't need RJ time to get hired at SKW, XJT, RAH or any other of the somewhat respectable regionals. He's at 850 hours, so it‘ll take what 2-3 months to meet the mins for SKW. OK so he waits and gets on with SKW let's say at the 4 month mark. At first he is awarded MKE but before he even completes training he's in ORD. Now he upgrades in ORD or MKE in about 2 1/2 years (est., could be a lot less).

OK here’s what's going to happen to you. You'll sit reserve in ORD for say 9 months. Think not, guess again, a friend of mine was hired by Mesa last August and he's still on reserve in ORD; he’s about to interview with RAH (sound familiar). At Mesa it’ll take you 3+ years to upgrade but you're leaving after 1 so now you go to SKW, RAH or XJT. Your upgrade time there is about 2 1/2 years or less plus the one year you just WAISTED!!!!!!!!!! You gave up all those seniority numbers at the regional you what to work for in order to gain what you say is "Marketable RJ experience" that you really didn't even need. LOL! Ignorant!

All I can say is enjoy 1st year pay twice SJSer! Yes I'm being harsh but you need it. Your logic is seriously flawed, but you’re an SJSer, so I wouldn’t expect anything less!

BTW, are you wondering why no MAG pilots are coming to your defense? Are you wondering why you’re not getting any replies from other May 7th MAG students? Hmmmmmm? Take a look around at other threads like this one for Comair, AWAC, RAH, XJT and SKW; they're getting lots of replies and lots of "Congrats see you on line," but not MAG. I wonder why, Hmmmmm?

Enjoy your bottom feeder airline! Oh and my advice is to bring your own lube for JO (John Ornstein), you're going to need it when your day gets cancelled and you don't get paid a dime. Actually you'll at least get $1.20 an hour per diem (industry low)!

That is a powerful statement!

Lewis, fortunately you have 850TT, so you are in pretty good shape for other regionals. If you decide to stick with Mesa, here is the best advice I can offer you. Start applying to other airlines immediately. Skywest and American Eagle both have an ORD base. Skywest and Eagle are two of the top tier regional airlines. Mesa is the worst of the worst. Skywest upgrade is about 2 years. Eagle's upgrade is probably 3-4 years if you got hired today. That is about the same as Mesa's upgrade time!!! Also, apply to Pinnacle as they are within a very close commute.

DO NOT WORRY ABOUT YOUR TRAINING CONTRACT AT MESA!!!
As soon as you are offered a job at Skywest, Eagle, Pinnacle, or somewhere else, take it immediately. From what I hear, it is too damn hard to enforce those contracts. Even if they were enforced, that money is a small price to pay. Think about it, if you spend just one extra year as FO for Mesa when you could have been a captain for Skywest, that is $30,000 you are missing out on!! Not to mention you will be building that valuable TPIC a full year earlier. That means you are elegible to be hired by the major airlines a full year earlier. That means an extra year of making big money $$$ during your career. By not breaking that small $10,000 training contract, you could be costing yourself roughly $150,000 or more over your career. Not to mention the crappy QOL you have to put up with at Mesa.

If I were you, I would keep flight instructing for another two months. Apply to Skywest, Eagle, and Pinnacle. You already meet the mins for Eagle and Pinnacle, and you will have Skywest mins in about 2 months. Trust me. I don't want to have to say, "I told you so!!" when you come back on this forum asking about Skywest, Eagle, and Pinnacle in 6 months because Mesa sucks! If you do decide to go to Mesa to build time, do not worry about the training contract. Get out of there as soon as you can. It could be very costly NOT to break that training contract.

I guess nobody is going to be in your class.

The training contract is just a scare tactic, I know of at least 7 friends of mine who broke it around the 9 month mark. 850 total what air lines can you apply to:

Eagle
PSA
XJET
Mesaba
Piedmont
ASA
Comair

Apply to the above, go to traning at "I Hate My Life" airline once you get the call leave.

Our list is a little longer for pilots with 850 hours:

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/resou...070412222.html

(we're publishing this list based on reports from the line, if you know these have changed, you'd be doing everyone a favor to submit an update).

Well the above airlines would be my choice with 850tt.

You owe it to yourself to checkout.

www.mesahub.com

Hear it from the Mesa Employees themselves.

Please do research first, you've worked too hard and spent too much money to go to Mesa. Many people I've know that are ex-Mesa became so disgruntled with aviation they quit aviation all together.

I was in an fbo in the phoenix area yesterday when I started talking to a a dude in his mid-thirties who i immediataly could tell wasnt too bright. He starts telling me how he is going to be an airline pilot. He tells me that after he gets his private he is going to get his "CRJ License" and apply to mesa. I told him, "Ya know, Mesa doesnt have the best reputation. They dont treat their workers well and for a first year FO they only make $16-$18K a year. Then he says to me, "Yeah, Ive heard some stuff about Mesa but really, thats pretty good pay for a first year FO" I just kinda smiled but I wanted to say, "Well, then what the hell would you consider BAD pay??!!!! $12k a year, $10k a year?

Thank God for APC, Even though I am young and have only my private, I can already tell from lots of talks to wannabes that i am smarter than most wannabe airline pilots.

that was my point, thanks for breaking that down further for Him/Her. I just didnt feel like typing that much!!;)

Hopefully people will freaking listen!!

Isn't Eagle allowing you to choose your base before you start class? That would be my choice if I "really" wanted ORD.

Thanks for the help!

The biggest help he gave you was saying Mesa sucks and that the word is already out, but apparently you missed it.

I think Lewis is joking about going to Mesa. And by "think", I mean "hope".

There is a lot of hostility and it *looks* like most of it is directed at you. In reality everyone is just ****ed at how Mesa treats its pilots and they don't want you to go there and get screwed over. They are upset that Mesa is able to tarnish the industry by offering everyone a fancy jet etc... These posts are made in an attempt to convince you to consider other more reputable carriers. I agree with all of them. There are a bunch of other carriers out there that you more than qualify for who will treat and pay you much better. Try to look past the hostility and take the posts for what they are worth. Good luck.

He's not helping you!

I ask you again, have any MAG guys come to MAG's defense? NO!

Has anyone ever found a thread where a MAG pilot actually defended their airline or JO? NO!

You'll find Pinnacle, SKW, AE, ASA, Comair, Horizon, Mesaba, XJT and RAH pilots defending their airline, some more than others. But I ask you where the MAG and GoJets pilots are? I haven't seen many and the ones that are frequently posting have already jump ship to greener pastures and assist in these efforts.

Thanks for the softer side! Good Cop Bad Cop, Right? :D

Lewis; our attempts, whether harsh or not, are part of what we as pilots are doing to better our industry and our efforts aren't confined to this alone. If our comments on here can change the minds of a few pilots a month or help current ones bail then we’re improving our future one pilot at a time. Airlines like MAG and GoJets are using the phenomenon called SJS (Shiny Jet Syndrome = pilots who are willing to fly jets for almost nothing) in their favor to bring down pay and QOL for all pilots. As long as they continue to survive our industry will continue to struggle to regain part of what was lost after 9/11.

Friends don’t let friends fly for MAG or GoJets!

Believe you got the plane you want when you are sitting in it. Mesa has made those promises many times..... I saw an ERJ class go through training up to the point of completing orals before the checkride and then they were informed you doing it all over again we need you on the CRJ now.

Got 2 friends, well former friends since friends don't let friends fly for mesa, that are going to be there. Tried to educate both of them before they made the mistake even told them to come to this site and check out what really goes on there, not what the recruiter tells them. But SJS got them, one even had a interview a week later at another airline but didn't go because he "already had a job". Owell what can I do know except sit back and when the call complaining just say I TOLD YOU SO!

Hey at least thats a few more weeks of no stand ups or being JM'ed.

Yes we are. No choice of AC however. But the only AC in ORD are ERJs and CRJs.

But even flying ATRs in SJU would be better than getting 'it' from Mesa.

Alright guys give it a rest.

Lewis-

I have been at Mesa since the beginning of this year. It's not anything like the guys on here say it is. That's because a vast majority of them work elsewhere and speculate about Mesa having never set a foot on the premises.

Note: I said vast majority, so I don't want every chotch on here who has worked at mesa to respond to this. You've been quiet this long, so keep it up.

Pretty sure you didn't get ORD yet, since you haven't talked to the standing bid girls. That should happen around the end of week 2. Wouldn't count on the jet either. The class that started about 3 weeks ago all went to the Beech 1900.

If you like to fly, this is a great place b/c you'll do plenty of it. The guys I fly with are great, and I enjoy myself. Pay isn't much, but if you're not used to having a lot of it to begin with, you won't really care.

Good luck. Keep a good attitude, and have fun with ground school. I loved it, and PHX is a fun place to be.